I'm wondering if grid autosport can really be this bad

No. I'd enjoy a good simcade as much as anyone else but games that promote crash fest derbies and reckless driving should be banned. They are dangerous as they alter the perception of racing among kids and teenagers, makes them think they are good drivers and once they get into the real thing they think they are godlike.
And let's face it, minority of that audience makes it into sim racing because they enjoyed arcades. For me, it was the opposite. I hated how on replays real race cars drove very differently to arcade racers. That's why I switched and tried sims even though it was intimidating at first. I grew to love them though. It was that hatred the steered me away from casual racing, not the 'fun' that I must have supposedly had. Apparently it was no fun for me.

 

People who drive recklessly on the road irl are just retards full stop . Banning any video game for that reason is a new one to me Motor racing is a contact sport anyway and of course i've noticed how playing sims helps people be better drivers especially at more or less every single first corner of every online race in assetto i've ever had .

 

That happens because most are coming from those 'sims' and have no idea what they are doing. 1 black sheep in the flock is enough for1st corner mayhem.

 

depends on what form of Motorsports. Nascar and derby indeed is, but F1, motogp and other forms of racing are totally not a contact sport

 

In the context of video games to which i was referring they are , anyways i don't get the grid autosport hate , games like this are like the entry level gateway for sims like assetto and others where some gamers like me will play and want more realism and then try sims which will enlarge the community which is better for all of us .

I'l be playing through the single player and online to give myself a break from assetto for a month or so as some parts of this game are becoming overly familiar . Hopefully by the time i come back will be something new from Kunos .

 

It certainly isn't a contact sport. There are a very few exceptions such as speedway stock car racing which encourage contact, but everything else isn't. Touring cars are a grey area, technically it's not supposed to be a contact sport, but rubbing and nudging has sadly become accepted into it.

Back to the topic - Grid Autosport isn't aimed at sim racers. Codemasters know where their target market is, and its a target market which will buy this particular game. Its a business model at the end of the day, and they aiming to make money.

 

@1karl1 Never heard of motogp? Yes it's also motor racing.

The grid autosport hate comes from the fact that the game doesn't live up to the expectations. Grid 1 was good, Grid 2 and autosport are worse and def not what the grid 1 audience wanted. They said after the bad grid 2, that autosport would be more like grid 1. In the end it wasnt even that close. This all equals people hating it.

 

Grid 1 destroyed the Toca series, I don't think most people would say it's a good game.

 

Ahh yes... TOCA, good times.

GRID is an arcade franchise, yes their CEO said that its more towards sim, but they say the darndest things the higher the corporate ladder goes.

Banning games is nothing new. Back in the day there was an official hearings if Counter-Strike should be banned in Germany.
Australia (why I use australia as an example!? It has the largest list of banned games from western countries.) has banned and censored many video games inclueding Postal, Left4Dead2, Syndicate... and then theres the list that was banned/censored but eventually found their way to the market like GTA franchise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games

I wouldn't be supriced if there is a piece of land somewhere that iVG's wish comes true.

 

Yeah of course i have it's got nothing to do with this car racing topic tho until you mentioned it and yeah wrongfire Grid 1 & 2 are pretty much a joke simwise but watching inside sim racings preview i bought it and i'm trying to talk about autosport fairly for what it is & not what others believe it pretends to be even thoough the devs have said many times they're more after the feeling of racing than realism . I think my first good memory of any driving game was the original toca on ps1 in cockpit view felt so real at the time ha .

 

I quite like it so far, it's enjoyable game

sure I would wish for more realistic physic, but I'm not their main marker
it's definitely big improvement over Grid2

and their tracks/trees are very nice

 

I like it to. Fun to play, good graphics and the ai seem decent to.

 

I agree, arcade and simcade definitely is a gateway to enlarging the community. Show most children or newbies a sim and they will throw it out the window and start crying for Mario Kart back. If they play something like Codemasters games or Forza and enjoy it they might progress to sims.

You said "Motor racing is a contact sport anyway". MotoGP is motorbike racing.

 

Any sport that includes a vehicle with an internal combustion engine is considered motosport. (Hybrids and electrics are a recent addition)

 

If you enjoy AC then avoid these codie's titles, its pure arcade nonsense.

 

I find some of these "arcade" titles to be the same thing as watching a mindless action movie blockbuster. No thinking required, you enjoy the lush visuals, etc, with minimal concentration required to have fun. Other times I enjoy the challenge of the sims, or a serious "thinking" movie.

As an example, I have spent many hours with Test Drive Unlimited (1), cruising around Hawaii, or chasing around like my hair is on fire, enjoying the landscapes, the sound of the cars (which is quite good imo), playing with my keyboard of all things, and having a laugh at the ease with which I can hold ludicrous power slides due to the steering correction.

Serious? No. Fun and relaxing? Yes.

 

Why?

I like both, just as I like both Arma 3 and Titanfall, just as I like indian food and chinese food, just as i like blondes and brunettes.

Variety is the spice of life (especially women)!!

 

Motorhead are a rock band and have as much to do with grid autosport and this topic as motorbikes unless were playing lets be pedantic .

 

I don't really understand why some of you use word like hate, arcade nonsense, destroyed etc.... It's on my desk now, and I will install it on a rainy day after taking out old versions of Cubase and other programs that are filling up my SSD at the moment.
I moved on to AC after trying GRID2 for a while. First reason was to find a racing game which wasn't based on sliding round every corner. Check/AC! Second reason was that I got tired of some drivers always using contact as part of their driving style, even in the "Hard Core mode". Check/AC ..... not really, maybe getting there. Third, trying to find a easy, flexible race system with a good community. Not Checked... yet.
There were certainly a bunch of good drivers in the GRID2 community, and many of them with good racing etiquette as well. The casual race booking worked quite well for people like me, having problems to commit to organized scheduled racing. Haven't tried this in GRID_A yet, but this worked quite well for racing on the fly in GRID2.

If you don't like it, don't play it. Why using so many extreme negative statements on something that others might appreciate? Different preferences, for shure, but disrespectful to the fans of other games.
I will probably continue to favour AC after testing GA, but let their fans drive in peace.

Peace, love and understanding! (Yes, I was a teenager in the 70's.... )

 

I am with you on this one. Each to his /her preference. I did enjoy Forza 4 but couldn't go back to it after AC. Have F1 2013 but not much time on it since I got it. Now some of you are going to laugh! I have spent loads of time (17 days total ) with Real Racing 3 on my Android phone during my 2hr daily commute on the train. So go figure