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Minorating.com (drivers thread)

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Minolin, Aug 7, 2015.

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  1. deci

    deci Simracer

    feels like the CP calculation is a bit harsh again? 12km/h velocity crash = 1 CP. is that as intented?
    that was on this occasion (despite the fancy server name.. there were not only clean racers!....):

    5/4/2017 11:35:48 AM
    OnlyCleanRacersABCDWN15 km47 %1.00ks_toyota_gt86 magione[]
     
    deci, May 4, 2017
    #3641
  2. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    Seeing it allows everyone in it cant be only clean racers. Minorating is doing nothing there except grading people not filtering out anybody. :rolleyes:
     
    martcerv, May 4, 2017
    #3642
  3. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    lol, it includes W, but yeah, only clean racers. xD

    But yeah, the awarded CPs did increase with one of the last updates.
     
    Berniyh, May 4, 2017
    #3643
  4. Christopher Low

    Christopher Low Alien

    Only clean racers, and yet they accept W grade drivers?? LOLz of the highest order there :eek:
     
    Christopher Low, May 4, 2017
    #3644
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  5. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    [ ] I understood the purpose of the system I'm using
     
    Minolin, May 4, 2017
    #3645
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  6. Christopher Low

    Christopher Low Alien

    Ah, sorry. I thought it was referring to a server that someone had set up for racing. I didn't realise that it was your test server, Minolin! Apologies :oops:
     
    Christopher Low, May 4, 2017
    #3646
  7. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    I was, too :) my testserver is not topic in recent contributions to my knowledge.
     
    Minolin, May 4, 2017
    #3647
  8. deci

    deci Simracer

    me refering to the name of the server was only a joke, because it was so obvious that it has all grades and is called "onlycleanracers" and on the server were some people crashing around for fun etc. the specific 1CP i was asking about was my fault, because i did not anticipate the guy in front of me braking at a certain point, were you usually don't brake, i was too close... anyway.
    i just asked, because a couple of month ago, there were much more nuanced CP points for slower contacts (like 0.2. o.3 etc) and it feels like now i only get 1.0 CP on any kind of crash again.
     
    deci, May 4, 2017
    #3648
  9. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    You can still get 0.x CP, but 1.0 CP is awarded much more often than before.
     
    Berniyh, May 4, 2017
    #3649
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  10. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Too complicated to just put it here in a few sentences, but abstract: You get gradually less CP for very small impacts, so a brief touch doesn't weight as much as a real shot. The threshold was slightly reduced several times, but it's still ~15 kph = 1.0, 7.5 kph = 0.5. But there are (many) other small factors that can adjust the CP upwards, usually capped at 1.0 CP.
     
    Minolin, May 4, 2017
    #3650
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  11. LeiF

    LeiF Alien

    Lol Mogget you really should stop drinking in the daytime / check glasses prescription :)
     
    LeiF, May 4, 2017
    #3651
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  12. TDS

    TDS Alien

    Stop drinking during daytime???? NEVAH!
    check glasses prescription is a good tip :p
    lol
     
    TDS, May 4, 2017
    #3652
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  13. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    I think I know both why we had some sessions that weren't saved recently, and also why helicorsa somethimes fail to display the MR grades.
    It comes down to my low budget databases (which are currently Microsoft hosted). The affordable ones are prone to be overloaded by other guys, who use them for some load tests or whatever. Didn't notice too much of that in my time with MR, but I did some research for work and there it was significant.

    Currently I'm using one DB for the MR backend to read and write, and a replication for reading access (like AUTH, Website, Helicorsa, APIs, Analysis). Now I'm trying to shuffle around a bit, get rid of the replication and put this amount of money into the next performance tier for the primary DB. Higher/more expensive settings had zero sideload problems, although I can't afford to use the one we tested our work stuff on.
    Removing the readonly DB shouldn't hit performance at all, MR usually has 10-15% load on the primary DB. By adding even more computing power we should see more than enough extra workload for AUTH and stuff.

    I'm also shutting down any money drain that isn't used or not worth it, e.g. uswestauthminoratingcom. According to statistics it's not used. Please have a good look if you see anything not working now. I'm especially worried if I really changed all access to the replication DB, but we'll see as soon as I hit the "delete" button.
     
    Minolin, May 7, 2017
    #3653
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  14. Dando0

    Dando0 Gamer

    Hi guys!
    i wounder if this is what i want to show on top of the screen on my servers when ppl bump another car or crash others.
    the message in pTracker works fine but i want everybody to see what happens during a race,
    if i am not in server, the ppl don´t vote to kick crashers :( and the serious ones leave the server.
    other serever settings:
    MAX_CONTACTS_PER_KM=2
    Minorating A,B,C
    so my idé was to get this message for everyone and therefore maybe ppl will vote when they see same driver message on top of the screen.

    i have seen it on some servers for a while ago but forgot to ask how they did it, and i can´t find it somewhere :(

    Thanks in advance
    /Anders
     
    Dando0, May 8, 2017
    #3654
  15. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Did you just quote a piece of August 2015? Don't tell me you read all the thread :D

    If I understand your question you want to give everybody a chat message of an accident, so people can get a picture and votekick efficiently. Well that's not a bad idea, but MR won't do anything in this dimension.
    Usually it won't even whisper you upon contact (you need to activate it via /mr command), what you see belongs either to pTracker or Kunos' MAX_CONTACTS_PER_KM. And in total I can't belive people will like constantly being distracted by those messages.

    But I like the idea to support votekicks. Let me think about it, maybe I can at least give a hint.
     
    Minolin, May 8, 2017
    #3655
  16. Schnipp

    Schnipp Alien

    Maybe send messages only if a driver passes a certain amount of CP in one session.
     
    Schnipp, May 8, 2017
    #3656
  17. TDS

    TDS Alien

    whats the command for showing contacts live again pls? i always forget it, thx :)
     
    TDS, May 8, 2017
    #3657
  18. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    Well, there is a message in case someone gets downgraded.

    Personally I don't like the votekick system at all. It just doesn't work and I don't think there is a proper way of doing that.
    It's like having a jury that is blind to the facts (because you couldn't observe the incidents) and biased (because there is no replay).

    Sure there are the cases where someone very obviously does something wrong, but in those cases MR should take care of it or if it's really bad the max contacts per km thing in the server setting.
     
    Berniyh, May 8, 2017
    #3658
  19. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    iirc
    Code:
    /mr incidentinfo
    but
    Code:
    /mr help
    will definitely tell you.
     
    Berniyh, May 8, 2017
    #3659
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  20. Dando0

    Dando0 Gamer

    hehe i have searched the forum for so many different lines but never found anything, and then i found yours back from 2015 ;)

    ya i know it can be really disturbing to see and hear that but i really don´t know what to do,
    we are a couple off ppl that is in the servers almost everyday and race and love to help and learn others to race, but for some reason some drivers don´t look at the chat and don´t respons to any messages taken.
    and i hate to kick ppl just for there ignoranse for info.
    And thanks for the info Minolin :)
    /Anders
     
    Dando0, May 8, 2017
    #3660
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