The importance of fov

Hello, i have more then 500 hours on assetto corsa. After hours of playing I can say that FOV is very important value and shoul be fixed on 50. The FOV is connect with feeling in drive, the perception of the track, the way how turn the wheel. It's very important to have the right POV. I don't think is connected with the size of monitor. I have tv 55" and i was playing with different value of POV. But now i can say that the best value is 50. It's important also to have a right view on street as big as possible, just the top of dashboard and nothing else. Of course i use wheel and i try to allign my wheel with the virtual dashboard. Sorry for my english. I will load some pictures and video to show what i mean.

 

https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/fov-field-of-view-heres-what-i-think.19426/

 

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know this link. I was reading a lot about. My opinion is that fov should be fixed. Cause it is not connected with size of scrren or the distance from screen. It's my opinion.

 

Interesting.
~Bailey

 

Having a fixed FOV might be an interesting "optional feature" for hosting servers. But in general, being able to adjust FOV, is a very important tool to allow for everybody's brain the ultimate experience. Personally, I "sit" very close to the dashboard with a rather wide FOV, and I wouldn't want it any other way. So I wouldn't vote on a fixed FOV.

 

you cant fix the field of view, not everybody has or can achieve the same distance from their monitors...that's the whole point of the thing...

 

Why would you ever want a fixed fov server setting? Everyone has a different setup and screen size and distance is very important even if one person thinks otherwise.

Its not an aid but having the wrong setting will likely make you slower. Forcing others to use the wrong setting is just stupid even if it may be the correct setting for you or your preffered setting. Its the best part of sims with settings so people can set things up as they want.

Maybe you want to force everyone to use only a single screen and keyboard so people with better hardware dont get and "advantage" over those that have the wrong hardware.

 

I just say that Fov influence the perception of track and the way you drive the corners. Different fov make different style in driving. It's not correct. I think that there is just one real value in FOV and it make feel the virtual track as the real track. In term of proportion of objects and length of them. Tomorrow i load a video.

 

Correct fov will make you see as true to real scale and perspective as possible on your hardware. There is no one figure for everyone which is why its adjustable. Running triple screens you dont even use the fov slider but input the actual dimensions of your setup. Still you may want to adjust these a little to suit.

To you 50 may be the fov you like, it doesnt make it correct for anyone else and is far from what I would be using on my setup. A larger screen will have a larger fov obviously as you do see more and so a smaller screen would have a smaller fov for the same reason.

Try and use a small monitor instead of your 55 inch screen at a fov at 50 and you will notice how screen size and distance effects fov greatly. Not sure how you came to your conclusion, are you trying with a smaller screen or just using the one and found that it only really works with one fov.

 

@martcerv: I did defenately not say I wanted a fixed server setting. Just that it might be an interesting option. But I cant see any good reason for it, but some others might.
I made it clear that I would vote NO and by your post it seems you were referring to me all the way .
Although, forcing clients to, for example, use wheel and 3 pedals worked well in LFS, so I would vote YES on that one.

 

I know you said youd vote no I just found it a silly thing to even suggest.

Forcing wheel isnt a bad server option though id likely just disable kb from getting on my servers. Some guys do ok with pads but I have yet to see one person be able to drive with kb on my servers that dont have aids enabled. Pads are clearly also not faster then a good driver with a wheel but the good pad guys can race as fair as a good wheel driver.

I was being a bit more sarcastic as people wanting to set forced fov likely dont know much about sims. If they were to think people being able to adjust fov is an aid then I see this as dumming down to the lowest level. This would be why they may also want to force everyone to play on a single screen with kb to drop down to the same low level.

 

I don't speak about real scale. Of course bigger screen help in this way. I speak about the real perception of track. Fov do not change the size of things but the way you see the things. And this is the problem. I could use my ipad as monitor but i would use the same fov cause i will see the same thing as in my 55" just much smaller. Of course the problem is to not use too much small screen and not try to solve it with different fov.
If you see formula one in tv "cockpit view" you see the same on 22" or 55". You do not need change the fov but only your distance from screen. So fov is just one real value. If you have small screen go close to it, if you have bigger screen go more far from screen.

 

Last time I checked I use hood view and FOV doesn't change on that one...It gives me the best viewing angle and so I use it. If I had triple monitors I would sure use cockpit view with everything right where it needs to be, but since I don't have that luxury I use whatever works for me best. Ability to fine tune should be there always.

 

You do realise when people are discussing fov and correct fov this is to try and get the same fov as our eyes would see the scene. This is relative to screen size and distance so you get proper scaling on the screen when your fairly close to it.

Every camera also has a fov setting its called zoom. What you see is what you get on tv but its highly unlikely that it will be a correct fov for you as you want if you were driving from it. It doesnt matter your not driving it just watching so if its a little or way out its not really an issue and you can view video with any zoom level as its not at all the same thing.

All we are trying to do with fov if setting a correct one is to match how we would see the scene with our eyes. This is on a fixed setup screen size and distance from it so you just adjust fov as needed to suit your setup. You can then also adjust it either way from there as correct fov on a small single screen makes it very hard to see anything around you.

Its pretty common knowledge of the benefits of a correct fov setting. There is no fixed value that works for everyone in the same way even if you seem to think it does. There is a good reason why the fov option is added to any decent sim.

So Im sorry to say your wrong in a big way, still the thing is you have the option to use any fov be it right or wrong so its really not an issue in any way. Some may want a corect fov, some one that just works with their setup better others adjust it to get some fake sense of speed. There is no one size fits all but if you think there is then that makes it easier for you at least.

 

What a joke of a thread. Practically everyone has different screen width and seating distance, of course fov needs to be adjustable.

 

Must......resist.....temptation....to comment......

 

oh yes! resist!!!

 

if you make servers only for guys sitting cca 74 cm away from 55" screens (or 30cm with23" and so on) then it theoretically could work fixed to 50 ... and even than it wouln`d of course it depends on size/distance ..

 

Hey guys, first at all this is my opinion. I do not say I'm right or wrong. Just my opinion. Of course in my experience with single monitor 55" I can say that I prefer to have a real correct value in FOV and not see all around car. Of course with 3 monitor it would be much better.
I really don't understand why, almost all have a "technical"approach to this value. When I spoke about formula 1 in tv, it was an example about the same view but with different size of tv. I know about "zoom" in camera etc.. But I speak about feeling during the drive, and to have the right feeling we should use always the most real value in FOV. Of course anyone can have different taste on it, but I think that FOV is not only a "graphic" option.
It'is impossible to have the same view as in real cause the humans have binocular view and it's impossible to have the same feeling in TV without aberration (thanks god to oculus rift), but my opinion is to try to have the same feeling as in real. When you drive real car, cause binocular view you see all around you, but in real when you drive your attention is focused only one part of it. This picture make the sense of it.
Later I will load a video, to show how the correct value in FOV make you feel the real proportion in driving and good sense of speed.

 

This is first video