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Generic Weekly Hotlap #65 : Porsche 911R

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by moodyryder, Jan 21, 2018.

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Lewisxbone Alien

2:39.939 - X1 - G920 - flappy flaps.

Usual Monday for me 10 seconds off Svens super lap time.
Managed to get it down a little from a 2:46... but i
think I need to start trying different tracks out as well as the WHC through the weeks.
Last time I drove on Spa was with the Ferrari F40 #52 so it feels like I’m having to learn it again. Well that’s my excuse anyway!!
I’m liking the combo tho feels nice. Thanks Moody

Lewisxbone, Jan 22, 2018

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Fbrg90 Hardcore Simmer

2:39:003 pc

Fbrg90, Jan 22, 2018

#22

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fireballR18 Gamer

Great Track, great car. Hope my laptime will be also great

fireballR18, Jan 22, 2018

#23

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Hugo Catarino Hardcore Simmer

2.46.362 - PS4,ds4

This one feels a little bit unstable under heavy breaking,gonna need a few twiches in the setup to improve

Hugo Catarino, Jan 22, 2018

#24

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olevet Hardcore Simmer

Lewisxbone said: ↑

2:39.939 - X1 - G920 - flappy flaps.

Usual Monday for me 10 seconds off Svens super lap time.
Managed to get it down a little from a 2:46... but i
think I need to start trying different tracks out as well as the WHC through the weeks.
Last time I drove on Spa was with the Ferrari F40 #52 so it feels like I’m having to learn it again. Well that’s my excuse anyway!!
I’m liking the combo tho feels nice. Thanks Moody
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It's not really 10 it's "only" 3.5 For me it's solid 10, did about dozen of laps and not sure whether will be able to brake even 2.40 barrier. We'll see how it goes

olevet, Jan 22, 2018

#25

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sissydriver Alien

2:41,254 pc

spa is always so much fun, but not easy!

sissydriver, Jan 22, 2018

#26

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Xherdani Racer

2.37.742 - PS4 - Logitech G29 - not the best lap - i think there can be a laptime around a second faster

Xherdani, Jan 22, 2018

#27

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Justray2000 Hardcore Simmer

2:42:155 - PC

Don’t know how you guys do it. I’m barely keeping the car on the track.

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Justray2000, Jan 22, 2018

#28

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sissydriver Alien

2:39,557 pc improvement

first lap tyres are too cold
second lap they have ~90%...

really challenging

Edit
Setup
(everything i changed)
fuel 11l

TC off

front (stabi? emm..) first option at last menue
1

sissydriver, Jan 22, 2018

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flyingcarrot Hardcore Simmer

2.48.266 xbox one. Trying to figure out how to take the last corners before the tight 2 corners at the end, I end up too slow!

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flyingcarrot, Jan 22, 2018

#30

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Lewisxbone Alien

flyingcarrot said: ↑

2.48.266 xbox one. Trying to figure out how to take the last corners before the tight 2 corners at the end, I end up too slow!

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That’s where I struggled too. If I stay in 5th gear I go off and down to 4th I’m loosing time.

Lewisxbone, Jan 22, 2018

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flyingcarrot Hardcore Simmer

Lewisxbone said: ↑

That’s where I struggled too. If I stay in 5th gear I go off and down to 4th I’m loosing time.
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Exactly the same problem for me, 5th go off or back off and 4th is slow as I downshift and accelerate again to get up to speed! Strange.

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flyingcarrot, Jan 22, 2018

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svenvangent Alien

4th gear for me but it still stays a tricky fast corner nevertheless .

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svenvangent, Jan 22, 2018

#33

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Laughing Gravy Hardcore Simmer

2:42.811 PS4

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Laughing Gravy, Jan 22, 2018

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Laughing Gravy Hardcore Simmer

I'm having trouble keeping the front tires up to optimal temperatures. All four corners of the car are within 1 PSI of each other, but the fronts are about 10 degrees cooler than the rear tires. I've increased the front toe to +30, but still no joy.

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Laughing Gravy, Jan 22, 2018

#35

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DonZmeuheu Hardcore Simmer

2:40.969
PS4

I like the combo but I struggle a lot I really don't know how you guy's can go so fast. Sven, I need to say your time is so fast, that's just amazing.

DonZmeuheu, Jan 22, 2018

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svenvangent Alien

DonZmeuheu said: ↑

2:40.969
PS4
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I like the combo but I struggle a lot I really don't know how you guy's can go so fast. Sven, I need to say your time is so fast, that's just amazing.
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Learn the track , learn to understand the car and how it behave , find your breakpoint on the track and find those apex in the corners , slow in fast out ( classic one) for the corners .
If you have mastered this all more or less and you are still not loconuts ......... than you can break your head like I do on the setup of the car with trial and error good luck DonZmeuheu .

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svenvangent, Jan 23, 2018

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Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

2:37.702 pc

Spa is not one of my favourite tracks, I have never been able to figure this track out and doesn’t seem to matter what type of car I’m driving. Any other track and my ratio of clean to dirty laps is miles better than at Spa. I got too frustrated during today’s session because I couldn’t string two laps together but I did post a 2:37 before I rage quit

Pretend racer, Jan 23, 2018

#38

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sissydriver Alien
Laughing Gravy said: ↑

I'm having trouble keeping the front tires up to optimal temperatures. All four corners of the car are within 1 PSI of each other, but the fronts are about 10 degrees cooler than the rear tires. I've increased the front toe to +30, but still no joy.

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hi gravy,
try to keep right pressure - temperature is not so important.
same happens to me - but thats what it is with this car and track and tyre.

you can search in the forum here, there are a lot of threads bout this.
one of my favourite answers:

Donnced2 said: ↑

Tyre wear on online is bugged until next update and and the wear internal on the server is fixed at 100% for your information...

About heating...

This is from the devs.

Road Legal Tyres

Street and semi slicks are road legal compounds, used on the road. They wear out slightly. Their main problem is overheating, but after you have overheat them you can wait and start again, they can give similar grip even after lots of km’s. In the end they will wear and lose grip totally.

Street Tyres

Optimum temp: 75°C – 85°C but “easy” under and over those temps. Very easy to overheat after some laps on a circuit, especially on fast corners.

Semi Slicks

75°C – 100°C but a bit less grip under that and overheat quite faster over that. They have more grip of course and can resist more fast laps, but do not like much abuse and drifting. They wear gradually and lose grip km after km.

GT2 Slicks

The main difference of the GT2 cars is that manufacturers are actively developing tyres during the season and bring different compounds on the various tracks. We cannot of course simulate specific compounds for specific tracks, but we offer 5 different compounds:

SuperSoft: 90-105°C Don’t like to be driven under or over that range. They wear out very fast

Soft: 90-105°C as supersofts. they wear out fast

Medium: 85°C-105°C as supersofts over their range. They wear out in a linear gradual way

Hard: 80-100°C a tiny bit easier than supersoft outside their range but nothing too radical. They wear just a tiny bit after the initial laps and then stay quite stable for a long time until they start to lose lot’s of grip

SuperHard: 80-100°C as hards. They wear a tiny bit and stay stable for lot’s of laps until they let go.

GT3 Slicks

The biggest difference between GT2 and GT3 cars are their tyres. GT3 tyres are fixed for the whole season and the organization decides what tyres the car have to use. We provide 3 compounds that are not equivalent to their GT2 counterparts (worse):

Softs: 80-110°C . Wear VERY fast. We’ve been told that they were actually used only for a couple of times in qualifying.

Mediums: 75-105°C Wear linearly and predictably. all around tyre

Hard: 70-100°C Wear a tiny bit after a couple of laps and stay stable for a long sting. Not great grip but they are predictable and can be used in a wide variety of tracks and temperatures. Often “forced” by regulations on cars.

Hypercars Slicks

(Zonda R and 599XX) are a bit worse parents of the GT3 tires. Let’s say a generation behind. Rest of their characteristics is very similar to the GT3 tires.

Vintage F1 67 Tyres

We provide just one compound for such tyres, although we learned there were actually different compounds. As a matter of fact, there is documentation reporting that Jim Clark choose the tyre that permit him to slide more for the race at Monza. Unfortunately there is not enough documentation for the compounds so for now we stick with just one compound. If anybody has more info regarding the matter, I’d be happy to discuss with it. Optimum range 50-90°C. The tyres are good at low temps, and can withstand overheating pretty well. The tyre wear is gradual, you can expect to do a full race without problems, except if you overdrive and overheat them too much.

The tire ranges are not perfect ranges but a min max range that you might not be able to understand a difference in tire grip. Temperatures are also vary quite widely from straight to inside a turn, so optimally you need a tire that stays at the lower end of the optimum temperature just before the braking zone and at the higher end of the optimum temperature at the exit of the turn. Not so easy to obtain.

In AC going outside the optimum range, doesn’t mean the car will become undriveable. This characteristic is a double sword. You might think the car is good, but you’re not driving on the optimum grip, so you’ll lose time without understanding it. There’s depth to be found and explored within the AC tire model.

Another hint for tyre temperatures, as in real life, use more camber to heat faster a part of the tyre tread and then this dissipate to the rest of the tyre. More camber, more heat, less camber, less heat.
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sissydriver, Jan 23, 2018

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BrainsBush Hardcore Simmer

svenvangent said: ↑

Learn the track , learn to understand the car and how it behave , find your breakpoint on the track and find those apex in the corners , slow in fast out ( classic one) for the corners .
If you have mastered this all more or less and you are still not loconuts ......... than you can break your head like I do on the setup of the car with trial and error good luck DonZmeuheu .
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Sven has an advantage this WHC. This is his hometrack as in inhabitant of Belgium. So we will virtually deduct 2 seconds of his time

BrainsBush, Jan 23, 2018

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