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Mclaren p1 vs the ferrari

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by speeddrifter, Mar 12, 2015.

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  1. Turk

    Turk Alien

    Maybe at a race day but I'd assume on most tourist days people are using normal tyres that don't lay down rubber and it would be no more sticky than any busy road would be.
     
    Turk, Mar 13, 2015
    #101
  2. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Yes, probably little lap gain, but quite high session transfer I'd think.
     
    Minolin, Mar 13, 2015
    #102
  3. Traind

    Traind Hardcore Simmer

    The P1 feels great to me... thanks for your work. Is there any way to program the speedometer on the dash to read in mph vs. kph when you select that in game?
     
    Traind, Mar 13, 2015
    #103
  4. Plak

    Plak Rookie

    Ingame app "wings" shows P1 produces ~950kg of downforce at ~260km/h. McLaren site states it should be 600kg.
    I`ve tested M3 E92 as well and it`s spot on with total 33kg of lift at 200km/h.
    So app seems to show right values.
    [​IMG]
     
    Plak, Mar 13, 2015
    #104
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  5. Lucas - Xtremepsionic

    Lucas - Xtremepsionic Alien

    950 is wayyyyy more than what McLaren quoted. Maybe the P1 is too fast in AC right now with that error?

    I'm not home to test right now, what does the La Ferrari show in the in game app?
     
    Lucas - Xtremepsionic, Mar 13, 2015
    #105
  6. Aristotelis

    Aristotelis Will it drift? Staff Member KS Dev Team

    That's very strange indeed... I'm baffled on how this happened and how everything else sits properly like laptimes etc... uhm something is strange. I'll have a good look during the weekend as I'm struggling with some HD failure problems since yesterday.

    If there is an error, I apologize in advance and a proper fix should be deployed next week for sure.
     
    Aristotelis, Mar 13, 2015
    #106
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  7. William Levesque

    William Levesque Alien

    To be fair, I've noticed that downforce cars are too good at high speed. Like they make almost twice the downforce they should. As for laptimes, maybe low speed grip isn't quite high enough ? And of course with the lesser downforce the cars would be a bit faster on the straights as well.
     
    William Levesque, Mar 13, 2015
    #107
  8. Aristotelis

    Aristotelis Will it drift? Staff Member KS Dev Team


    errr no... you are connecting completely unrelated things, it's better to stay focused to one verified problem (if it is) instead of making confused assumptions
     
    Aristotelis, Mar 13, 2015
    #108
  9. William Levesque

    William Levesque Alien

    True, but then how would laptimes get affected if downforce is toned down ? 260kph in Shwedenkreuz (admittedly on slicks and optimal track) with the P1 sounds a bit fast. Not only that, but the car was wicked stable too.

    Anyway, I'll let the pros figure it out, I'm just some nutcase simracer after all :D
     
    William Levesque, Mar 13, 2015
    #109
  10. PhenOm

    PhenOm Alien

    Slicks.
    Slick tires make a huge difference in terms of grip. Especially on road cars.
     
    PhenOm, Mar 13, 2015
    #110
  11. PAKFA

    PAKFA Alien

    I hope you don't mind me linking your quote in my sig, although I did opt out for track surface Green, since it suits better with the "Green Hell" status. :)
     
    PAKFA, Mar 13, 2015
    #111
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  12. tommi karsikas

    tommi karsikas Alien

    Plus Eightyfourthousand!
    I just love your "rants".

    Fun!? ...I'll sure have some of that.
    Tomorrow I shall test the 1.1 and Dream Pack for the first time... I'll come here and whine about something after. :oops:
     
    tommi karsikas, Mar 13, 2015
    #112
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  13. JackCY

    JackCY Racer

    Kunos, are you sure the DRS isn't supposed to deactivate on heavy steering and that the DRS button isn't to be held down so DRS is kept activated instead of only pressing it without holding?

    Missing mode selection.
    Missing boost/IPAS button.
    No launch control.
    No settings for ESC.
    ...

    Simply there is some single preselected mode selected by Kunos and the car doesn't run anything else :(
    Simulation and realism? Poor.

    Please add missing features so the simulated car behaves and has options equal to the real thing.
     
    JackCY, Mar 13, 2015
    #113
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  14. PhenOm

    PhenOm Alien

    Hate & flame incoming.
     
    PhenOm, Mar 13, 2015
    #114
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  15. ears1991

    ears1991 Alien

    Drs I read the same as you that it should deactivate on steering and be hold to activate. Assume they could just create a second drs mode and apply it per car so it doesn't affect the exos s1. Ipas I'm still not sure on, people say its auto deployed in race mode which is the mode simulated, but as far as I can tell its only doing torque fill, otherwise the charge would go flat really fast but it seems to last for ever. Also the dashboard suggests this too, don't know if that matches the real car or not

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
    ears1991, Mar 13, 2015
    #115
  16. 3316V

    3316V Alien

    No it doesn't, because the Nordschleife doesn't rubber up like a normal track, that's why it "should" be in slow.
     
    3316V, Mar 13, 2015
    #116
  17. Aristotelis

    Aristotelis Will it drift? Staff Member KS Dev Team

    There is a whole thread about the P1 VS the Ferrari where we discussing about the car. If you could spent 10 minutes reading through it, you would have find that...

    Our DRS simulation right now, only permits activation through single press and deactivation on braking. Works well enough to simulate the car, hopefully in the future we would be able to simulate the rest.

    We simulate only the Race mode of the car. In that mode IPAS is totally automatic and the "boost feature" doesn't work.

    We don't simulate launch control

    Also consider that many of the car settings, are McLaren proprietary algorithms that are not so willing to share. We can't possibly simulate every feature of every car in a commercial game (because in the end that's what it is) because at some point you must make some compromise regarding time of development, investment and return of investment... you know in the end the game costs 40€ the real car 1 million. I think we did a pretty impressive work simulating the car handling and complex physics, especially in terms of kers, hybrid systems, aerodynamics etc we really think we offer the best simulation out there.

    merging the two threads
     
    Aristotelis, Mar 13, 2015
    #117
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  18. PAKFA

    PAKFA Alien

    Exactly how often do you do 20-30 laps on Nords to see it "rubber up"? "That's why" I'll be fine with Green, you go on and be Slow. :p
     
    PAKFA, Mar 13, 2015
    #118
  19. Epocx

    Epocx Alien

    Maclaren site stated that the rear wing alone produces 600kg... ?!?! the whole car must be more!
    but it doesnt matter now, Aris will look into it.
     
    Epocx, Mar 13, 2015
    #119
  20. Epocx

    Epocx Alien

    launch control in a racing sim. maybe autopilot too? then you dont have to do anything.
     
    Epocx, Mar 13, 2015
    #120
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