Off-track 5 Second Penalty

This is essentially what happens in R07 and it works quite well mostly. There are some instances where it isn't quite right though, namely when you get punted off in T1 Monza and get a stop & go penalty through no fault of your own, but most people know where the flaws are.
It does seem to register if you have gained any time or not and gives you 2 warnings but if you deliberately cut a chicane you are given an instant stop & go penalty.
It is doable.

 

Another VERY IMPORTANT thing is the working Blue Flag ( letting fast drivers pass in the next two corners for example) as we had some bugs in rFactor that (mostly) ruined races because some guys just don't respect it...

 

Again, already replicated in R07.
3 warnings of blue flag then you're DQ'd
You really should try R07 if you haven't already lol

 

Lol, i'm just trying to focus on what it's important for future and for Assetto Corsa, because it's VERY important for the healthiness of online races, i know some sims really had good penalty systems, they should pick what worked well in some of them

 

Without pit stops the races should be short enough that nobody should get lapped.....And I don't think I have ever seen somebody in real life get DQ'ed for ignoring a blue flag.

 

Yup, I think that's what we all want

 

In 30 minute races YES it's possible to lap slowest drivers and in MP virtual racing respecting blue flags not to ruin fastest guys race is a MUST!

 

Why is respecting a blue flag in the real world a courtesy yet in virtual world it's a must? It's nice when a lapped car gets out of the way but in no way is it mandatory. The blue flag is just a notification that faster traffic is approaching; it is completely up to the slower driver to adhere and give way or to be an *** and take the preferred line....either way it is the fast guys job to find a way to get by...

 

Lol, end of conversation with you...

 

Yeah you can ignore the blue flag, but then you get a black flag and that you can't ignore

Seriously though, it is actually mandatory in most series, probably in all professional series. In F1 you get a penalty for ignoring three flags, that typically means you have 3 corners to make room, and that does mean getting out of the racing line.

Although there has been semi-serious talks about changing it so there are no blue flags at all. At least it would bring another interesting strategical element to the races, but also some pretty frustrating and unfair situations, especially in places like Monaco.

 

I'm just saying, I have never seen a driver in any series in real life get black flagged for ignoring a blue flag....I'm not saying it hasn't ever happened, I just have never witnessed it.
I also find it funny that somebody can be against a slow down penalty for cutting the corner or running the exit wide and wants three or four warnings before getting a penalty yet wants a lapper DQ'ed if he doesn't get out of the way within a couple turns.

 

I think it's preferred that the slower driver stays on the racing line unless it's safe to move off it (different for qualifying though), just so the following driver knows where he should be and can overtake him.
Other games do deal with these things quite well, but cutting the throttle for 5 seconds is just so unrealistic. It is little things like this which will make or break the game for most online players who want a proper sim.

 

It doesn't happen too often because it would only happen by driver mistake, i.e. not paying attention to blue flags. In most series the team would also be shouting into your ear if you are not noting the blue flag, and the stewards often let little lapses slide if they don't occur repeatedly to the same driver. There are probably only 5-10 penalties like this per season in F1.

Then of course there was the famous incident when Eddie Irvine was a rookie, and was having a fight of his own in front of race-leading Senna in Suzuka. Irvine didn't let Senna pass in a hurry, and before the race ended Irvine even unlapped himself back to the leading lap because Senna was moving slower. Irvine got his penalty after the race; a punch in the face from Senna

I think what people really want is just that mistakes would not get punished, only time gains. A lift-off system would do that.
And yeah DQ is a bit harsh. In real life a repeated offender would just get a drive through or time penalty after the race, but there are also mitigating circumstances, such as, your pace was not demonstrably slower than the lead car, and you were having a fight of your own.

Once in GTR2 in a drying track race, I was driving with absolutely blown intermediate tires trying to get to a cross-over point for slick tires, while my team mate had already decided to get new intermediates and was moving probably 1-2 seconds a lap faster, right behind me, at the previous lap. I let my team mate back onto the lead lap, and almost caused him to get a penalty by the stupid blue flag system which thought I was trying to pass him. I had to ease off enough for the blue flag to disappear, losing precious extra seconds (A very sinking feeling when I was in a terrible hurry; I knew the lead had different strategy to mine and that I should catch it up in the very final stages of the race).

So the lesson to be learned there, a real life blue flag system would also be extremely complex thing to implement...

 

It doesn't happen very often, because race drivers know to obey it. I haven't seen a DQ, but in race penalties have been served. Adrian Sutil got a drive-through during the Canadian GP this year (and he wasn't happy because he thought it was an unjust penalty).

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/06/09/sutils-criticises-inconsistent-fia-after-penalty/

 

+1000000000000

 

OK, with the 0.6 update the 5s/50Kmh penalty was reintroduced in the quickrace events, that's sad since IMO it's a step back.
But for example there isn't any penalty if you drive in the wrong direction: isn't this ridiculous?

 

yes....driving the wrong way is ridiculous, you can turn the penalty system off if you like

 

...but disabling achievements and the saving of the best lap, so it's a not useful option.

 

Well otherwise you could cheat. I still hope it's a temporary solution but it is at least better that you can choose.

 

What I'm wondering is, why do you get a penalty when you run too wide and slightly touch the gravel/grass on the outside?