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Reversed tracks in v.1.xxx.??

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by paulieGTR, Nov 20, 2013.

  1. Obizzz

    Obizzz Racer

    I liked the reverse track options in LFS. Those are some excellent fictional tracks btw. Some of them are more fun than real race tracks.

    Not so sure about driving real tracks in reverse though but I wouldn't mind the option if it was there and certainly won't hate others for wanting it.
     
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  2. Shaddix

    Shaddix Alien

    Would be cool, i tested just out of fun Imola reversed.
    Was fun :D
     
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  3. 3316V

    3316V Alien

    At least we don't have the "wrong way" sign anymore in practice mode.
     
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  4. LRK-racer

    LRK-racer Rookie

    I suggest you to drive the Nordschleife in a random sim in reversed direction. It's a great expierence, and it feels like a new Nordschleife although it's the same track.
     
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  5. Fred Joseph

    Fred Joseph I'm watching you ! Staff Member

    You seem to prove you wrong a LOT here on the forums.
    You'll be warned.
     
  6. Funny how the most trivial of suggestions can trigger such heated and spirited debates. I think I ran the Ring in reverse years ago in one of the Forzas and it was quite a challenge....It was literally learning a whole new track. I don't get why people think that the kerbs would have to be remade (it IS physically possible to drive any of these tracks in reverse, the safety and clean-up trucks do it all the time) and pit exit could be pit entrance and vice versa. Other than programming the AI it doesn't seem like something that would be that big of a project (programming the AI could be huge though, I don't know).

    I personally would have to be pretty bored before I would make laps on reversed tracks but with the sim only having a handful of tracks and many of them only having one variation it would make a nice bump in different varieties to drive. It wouldn't upset me if at some point this became a reality for AC but I would hope that no time would be spent on it until many more important things were finished first. (and I'm willing to bet the OP would agree)

    A little off topic here but what is up with the "if I don't like it then you are an idiot if you do" attitude around here. Many of us are died in the wool, hardcore simracers and rabid motorsport fans but just because somebody wants something that you view as sim-racing sacrilege as long as it doesn't affect you then what the hell does it matter? Do some of ya'll think that if Stefano sees this thread he will be like "that's a great idea, stop everything and get me a reversed Imola; V1.0 and all it entails can wait until I figure out how to flip the lollipop man"? Pretty sure that they have a plan in place and any ideas they like from the suggestion thread will be things they work on down the road when and if they have down time.

    I don't want people in my on-line lobbies running with controllers and third person view because I am hardcore, old, and set in my ways but I am damn glad that AC has the option for them to play and experience the sim. If there is no option and I have to let them in my server then I will cry a river in the forums but until then the way they play doesn't affect me so what do I care?

    Sorry for going so off the rails there.
     
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  7. Fred Joseph

    Fred Joseph I'm watching you ! Staff Member

    Yeah.. NOT funny... and that will only leads to one thing : closing of this forum.. :(
     
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  8. @Fred Joseph That would be a shame but when you get a bunch of hardcore sim-racers and give them the realistic sim they have been waiting years on there is going to be animosity when people suggest things that they see as "arcade" (and when you need to market said sim to the casual gamepad crowd there will inevitably be a culture clash).

    I would hate to see the chit-chat section of the forum get closed because the vast majority of the conversations here are very cordial.
     
  9. Fred Joseph

    Fred Joseph I'm watching you ! Staff Member

    I'm not against clash of culture - it usualy raise the discussion - but I see too many people call people "idiots" or that kind of sad words.
     
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  10. True.....I'm sure all of us have been guilty of saying things on a forum that we would never say to somebody face to face. (at least not sober anyways) Hopefully a dev warning here and there will keep things civil.
     
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  11. sinbad

    sinbad Racer

    Mugello reversed and the D1 e30 M3 are a match made in heaven.
     
  12. JocoG

    JocoG Simracer

  13. Luigi Gianni Vollaro

    Luigi Gianni Vollaro Hardcore Simmer

    I have no problem with reversed tracks as an option for practice, hot-lapping, and AI racing, although I wouldn't want to be forced to drive them in career or online races.
     
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  14. TheDyingScotsman

    TheDyingScotsman Hardcore Simmer

    You're focusing only on the negative. I have made plenty of positive posts, helping people, discussing things etc. I apologise for my bad attitude, no one's perfect.
     
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  15. kalabaleek

    kalabaleek Simracer

    Wow, this was a fascinating read. A lot of guys here need some serious anger management support. Poor guys are going to die of blood pressure erupting from their ears if this becomes any more heated...

    Hornbuckle pretty much nailed it here. We can't shut out every other kind of player than the elite mega hardcore sim racer that has a sim rig that breaks your legs if you crash; and kill you if it's hard enough of an impact. Because it ain't realistic to survive a head on collision with a wall in 200 mph. Or travel around the world in a few clicks.

    Anyway, if it doesn't interfere too much with dev time, what's the reason to stop others to enjoy this feature? Egocentric mindset. I wouldn't do it more than for a laugh sometime but I can already do it. But that's not for me to decide for everyone. It would add to the possibilities and wouldn't force anyone at all to do it...
     
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  16. Luigi Gianni Vollaro

    Luigi Gianni Vollaro Hardcore Simmer

    I think it's just fear. People are afraid that because there aren't many tracks the devs might include reverse tracks in career mode or online. Yes simracers are very egocentric, most people know what cars and tracks they prefer and dislike developers' time being spent elsewhere.

    If you asked the question 'would you like the possibility of playing reversed tracks in AC in hot lap or time attack mode?' 80% would agree. If you asked 'would you reguarly play reverse mode?' only about 20% would agree.
     
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  17. 3316V

    3316V Alien

    :D:D:D
     
  18. mattrick

    mattrick Racer

    I was just going to start a new post about reversed tracks after driving around Mugello for a few laps in the 1M - I think it would be a great idea (and relatively cheap for Kunos to implement) - Mugello in particular already has most of the rumble strips in place for it to work going around the wrong way.
     
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  19. barrelbreak

    barrelbreak Racer

    Congratulations, you have just described videogames.
     
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  20. paulieGTR

    paulieGTR Alien

    Well i suppose you could go over to RaceDepartment and share that opinion with these guys, since they had they're servers set up @"Reverse spa" on a few occasions, and other tracks also.

    WTCC ‘06/’07
    Anderstorp, Sweden
    Brands Hatch, UK
    Brno, Czech Republic
    Curitiba, Brazil
    Istanbul, Turkey
    Macau, China
    Magny-Cours, France
    Monza, Italy
    Oschersleben, Germany
    Pau, France
    Porto, Portugal
    Puebla, Mexico
    Valencia, Spain
    Zandvoort, Netherlands


    Additional tracks
    Estoril, Portugal
    Imola, Italy

    Vara Raceway, Sweden (Fictional) - amazing track and used for race events.

    Alternate layouts
    Brands Hatch Indy
    Curitiba Oval

    Curitiba Reverse
    Monza Reverse

    Monza Junior
    Macau Reverse
    Magny Cours National
    Oschersleben B-Course 06

    Oschersleben Reverse 06
    Oschersleben B-Course 07
    Oschersleben Reverse 07
    Puebla Oval
    Puebla Special
    Valencia Nacional
    Valencia Long

    Valencia Reverse
    Zandvoort Club

    I don't know why people need to be so angry with each other, with the dragging of their knuckles attitutde, there's enough of it in the world already.
     
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