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Benchmark results, food for thought

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Lino Carreira, Oct 22, 2015.

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  1. e345spd

    e345spd Gamer

    I think it might be worth your time to test another driver. Seems like SLI isn't scaling correctly for you.

    The cpu usage thing is very odd but potentially directly related to SLI not kicking as it should. Also, try messing with the DOF settings if you haven't already.
     
    e345spd, Oct 23, 2015
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  2. Ody

    Ody Racer

    @Jason Madigan
    +1 . You ARE GPU bound in a way, but for the wrong reasons (which is weird, i thought that sli scales better the higher you set your settings). But still, that cpu usage seems too low. You can also try with one setting at a time, you may find the culprit. Or its time to open an issue thread.
     
    Ody, Oct 23, 2015
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  3. Jason Madigan

    Jason Madigan Simracer

    The thing is, when I drop some graphical settings so its not all maxed out, my SLI scaling and GPU usage returns to completely normal, the GPU's both stay above 90% during the whole test, with the 2nd GPU staying slightly higher possibly due to being dedicated to PhysX. Here is another test just ran with slightly lower settings on some effects, the AA, AF and World Detail are the same ...

    AC VERSION: 1.3.4 (x64)
    POINTS: 13239
    FPS: AVG=90 MIN=3 MAX=207 VARIANCE=5 CPU=74%

    LOADING TIME: 10s
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti (5760x1080)
    OS-Version: 6.2.9200 () 0x100-0x1
    CPU CORES: 8
    FULLSCREEN: ON
    AA:4X AF:16X SHDW:1024 BLUR:0
    WORLD DETAIL: 5 SMOKE:3
    PP: QLT:3 HDR:1 FXAA:0 GLR:3 DOF:3 RAYS:0 HEAT:0

    CPU usage went back up to where I would of thought and GPU usage as well, I believe the CPU percentage is only calculated on the cores actively utilised by the game and not the CPU as a whole also. What the relationship is between maxed out graphics and cpu usage has me a little baffled at the moment lol.
     
    Jason Madigan, Oct 23, 2015
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  4. cooknn

    cooknn Alien

    My benchmark with everything on Ultra, but no FXAA or Blur.

    AC VERSION: 1.3.4 (x64)
    POINTS: 12416
    FPS: AVG=84 MIN=25 MAX=176 VARIANCE=1 CPU=41%
    LOADING TIME: 13s
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti (1920x1080)
    OS-Version: 6.2.9200 () 0x100-0x1
    CPU CORES: 8
    FULLSCREEN: ON
    AA:4X AF:16X SHDW:4096 BLUR:0
    WORLD DETAIL: 5 SMOKE:5
    PP: QLT:5 HDR:1 FXAA:0 GLR:5 DOF:0 RAYS:1 HEAT:1
     
    cooknn, Oct 23, 2015
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  5. Znam Neznam

    Znam Neznam Hardcore Simmer

    What I meant was is there a value that would be considered normal?
     
    Znam Neznam, Oct 23, 2015
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  6. e345spd

    e345spd Gamer

    It really is strange how the various settings actually end up impacting performance, it's really nothing like I expected for anyone so far. In confirmation of what Ody was saying, I've also seen myself become GPU bound in some fashion when crossfire is particularly unhappy with a profile I'm running. CPU usage stays abnormally low and both GPUs have low/erratic utilization.

    I added maximum settings and minimum settings benchmarks to a previous post if you want to take a look, though it isn't all that helpful since my cpu percentage remained basically the same. Perhaps you might be dealing with one specific setting that makes SLI unhappy (edit:"And then same as above only with high quality/detail in mirrors being on", looks like you found the culprit, good testing procedure!).

    AFAIK, AC doesn't use PhysX and moderate differences in GPU load aren't that uncommon. I think one card is still treated as the main 'controller' of sorts and possibly tasked with a bit of extra workload.

    Just noticed the last poster (cooknn') seems to be experiencing a very similar thing as you are and is also running the same GPU config. It's good to see it's not a localized issue as it potentially makes it easier to solve!

    If you guys don't mind, please both post your GPU driver versions. I think we can get this oddity resolved :)

    *Edit: Wow, just noticed you guys are running the same CPU at almost the exact some clocks, too. 99% sure that's unrelated to the issue, just an amazing coincidence.
     
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2015
    e345spd, Oct 23, 2015
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  7. Jason Madigan

    Jason Madigan Simracer

    HIGH QUALITY MIRROR REFLECTION

    This is the culprit of the issue for me at least, my GPU's stay stuck on 99% and 98% respectively during the whole benchmark with High Quality Mirror Reflections turned off :)

    The biggest thing I noticed with this bugger unchecked is that my FPS fluctuation reduced drastically between min and max.
     
    Jason Madigan, Oct 23, 2015
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  8. Andrew_WOT

    Andrew_WOT Alien

    Awesome addition. Thanks Kunos!

    4K GTX 980 Classified (stock clock):
    AC VERSION: 1.3.4 (x64)
    POINTS: 10105
    FPS: AVG=68 MIN=55 MAX=77 VARIANCE=0 CPU=30%

    LOADING TIME: 13s
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 (3840x2160)
    OS-Version: 6.2.9200 () 0x300-0x1
    CPU CORES: 12
    FULLSCREEN: ON
    AA:4X AF:16X SHDW:2048 BLUR:0
    WORLD DETAIL: 5 SMOKE:2
    PP: QLT:5 HDR:1 FXAA:0 GLR:5 DOF:5 RAYS:1 HEAT:1

    Game stable (mild) OC:
    AC VERSION: 1.3.4 (x64)
    POINTS: 11156
    FPS: AVG=76 MIN=3 MAX=111 VARIANCE=0 CPU=33%

    LOADING TIME: 12s
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 (3840x2160)
    OS-Version: 6.2.9200 () 0x300-0x1
    CPU CORES: 12
    FULLSCREEN: ON
    AA:4X AF:16X SHDW:2048 BLUR:0
    WORLD DETAIL: 5 SMOKE:2
    PP: QLT:5 HDR:1 FXAA:0 GLR:5 DOF:5 RAYS:1 HEAT:1

     
    Andrew_WOT, Oct 23, 2015
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  9. e345spd

    e345spd Gamer


    Yup sorry mate, I think I edited that bit into my post as you made your post! :oops:

    Fantastic finding, as far as things go that's a pretty good solution!

    I just noticed your 'Sim Racers Prayer'. That is hilariously accurate, I need to work on the turn 1 forgiveness though, been getting unnecessarily agitated by that lately :(
     
    e345spd, Oct 23, 2015
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  10. e345spd

    e345spd Gamer

    Could you run another one for us with 'High Quality Mirror Reflections' off? Seems to be a CPU usage bug with it for some, though I thought it was localized to multi-GPU until now.... On the other hand, 12 logical cores may be skewing the CPU percentage. Not sure.

    Still a bit confused by all these results.
     
    e345spd, Oct 23, 2015
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  11. Znam Neznam

    Znam Neznam Hardcore Simmer

    Lol in before

    Kunos has mental breakdown reading all these weird results.
     
    Znam Neznam, Oct 23, 2015
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  12. Sovers

    Sovers Hardcore Simmer

    Mine results

    AC VERSION: 1.3.4 (x86)
    POINTS: 7142
    FPS: AVG=48 MIN=14 MAX=157 VARIANCE=0 CPU=27%

    LOADING TIME: 51s :confused:
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 (1920x1080)
    OS-Version: 6.2.9200 () 0x100-0x1
    CPU CORES: 4
    FULLSCREEN: ON
    AA:2X AF:8X SHDW:1024 BLUR:0
    WORLD DETAIL: 5 SMOKE:2
    PP: QLT:4 HDR:1 FXAA:1 GLR:4 DOF:4 RAYS:1 HEAT:1

    AC VERSION: 1.3.4 (x64)
    POINTS: 7277
    FPS: AVG=49 MIN=15 MAX=157 VARIANCE=0 CPU=27%

    LOADING TIME: 12s :eek:
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 (1920x1080)
    OS-Version: 6.2.9200 () 0x100-0x1
    CPU CORES: 4
    FULLSCREEN: ON
    AA:2X AF:8X SHDW:1024 BLUR:0
    WORLD DETAIL: 5 SMOKE:2
    PP: QLT:4 HDR:1 FXAA:1 GLR:4 DOF:4 RAYS:1 HEAT:1
     
    Sovers, Oct 23, 2015
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  13. Jason Madigan

    Jason Madigan Simracer

    Here are two more results, first one is with everything maxed out except HQMR unchecked

    AC VERSION: 1.3.4 (x64)
    POINTS: 8213
    FPS: AVG=56 MIN=10 MAX=110 VARIANCE=1 CPU=32% Still very low CPU usage but both GPU's were over 95% the whole time

    LOADING TIME: 10s
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti (5760x1080)
    OS-Version: 6.2.9200 () 0x100-0x1
    CPU CORES: 8
    FULLSCREEN: ON
    AA:4X AF:16X SHDW:4096 BLUR:0
    WORLD DETAIL: 5 SMOKE:5
    PP: QLT:5 HDR:1 FXAA:1 GLR:5 DOF:5 RAYS:1 HEAT:1

    and then, one with everything maxed out except HQMR unchecked and dropped from Ultra to Static reflection rendering frequency (last setting in reflections)

    AC VERSION: 1.3.4 (x64)
    POINTS: 14520
    FPS: AVG=99 MIN=3 MAX=223 VARIANCE=3 CPU=50%

    LOADING TIME: 10s
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti (5760x1080)
    OS-Version: 6.2.9200 () 0x100-0x1
    CPU CORES: 8
    FULLSCREEN: ON
    AA:4X AF:16X SHDW:4096 BLUR:0
    WORLD DETAIL: 5 SMOKE:5
    PP: QLT:5 HDR:1 FXAA:1 GLR:5 DOF:5 RAYS:1 HEAT:1

    If anything, perhaps these two specific settings should be reflected in the results?
     
    Jason Madigan, Oct 23, 2015
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  14. Jason Madigan

    Jason Madigan Simracer

    Very interesting loading time results here, I figured most of the higher load times were due to mechanical drives ... would not of expected such a blow out from X86 to X64
     
    Jason Madigan, Oct 23, 2015
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  15. e345spd

    e345spd Gamer

    Man that is exactly what I was thinking, I do not envy trying to figure this all out.

    More interesting results, though I must admit I'm even more confused by the relative CPU and GPU usage than ever.

    "If anything, perhaps these two specific settings should be reflected in the results?"

    Couldn't agree more. Additionally, I think the logging should be started with a small time delay. A 'low' minimum contrasting with nice averages, max and low variance like you have indicates that the benchmark may be picking up something at the very beginning when it doesn't actually make any difference to perceived frame latencies. GPUs still 'spooling up' or something like that maybe.

    *Edit: Good eye spotting the x86 difference. I was wondering why his loading time was that much higher. Very surprised by that, too.
    The 560 looks like it's still running very well though!
     
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2015
    e345spd, Oct 23, 2015
    #55
  16. M Waechter

    M Waechter Racer

    Soorry guys. I exchanged "HDR" with "Motion BLUR" in my mind. So HDR recently was = that Motion Blur setting for me in this / my last posts. So please forget about, what I wrote about HDR in here !
    In mind I only thought about Motion Blur, which should better be off. in terms for better FPS.

    (I don't even find a box to check or uncheck it (HDR) anymore in the graphic options.)
    --
    Here is my first benchmark run, run with my standard settings I use almost everytime:
    AC VERSION: 1.3.4 (x86)
    POINTS: 10661
    FPS: AVG=72 MIN=19 MAX=124 VARIANCE=6 CPU=72%

    LOADING TIME: 60s [35s - at a second benchmark run directly afterwards with 100% identical settings]
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 (1920x1080)
    OS-Version: 6.1.7601 (Service Pack 1) 0x300-0x1
    CPU CORES: 4
    FULLSCREEN: ON
    AA:4X AF:4X SHDW:512 BLUR:0
    WORLD DETAIL: 5 SMOKE:0
    PP: QLT:3 HDR:1 FXAA:0 GLR:3 DOF:0 RAYS:1 HEAT:0
    -
    A third benchmark run (AF16x instead AF4x, rest was left the same):
    AC VERSION: 1.3.4 (x86)
    POINTS: 10258
    FPS: AVG=70 MIN=7 MAX=122 VARIANCE=6 CPU=70%

    LOADING TIME: 39s
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 (1920x1080)
    OS-Version: 6.1.7601 (Service Pack 1) 0x300-0x1
    CPU CORES: 4
    FULLSCREEN: ON
    AA:4X AF:16X SHDW:512 BLUR:0
    WORLD DETAIL: 5 SMOKE:0
    PP: QLT:3 HDR:1 FXAA:0 GLR:3 DOF:0 RAYS:1 HEAT:0
     
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2015
    M Waechter, Oct 23, 2015
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  17. Sovers

    Sovers Hardcore Simmer

    Yeah I'm surprised too, I was using x86 because of some problems with certain apps until now but I'll stick to the x64 after these results. Note: I have one ssd for the system and the AC installed in a normal hard drive.
     
    Sovers, Oct 23, 2015
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  18. Andrew_WOT

    Andrew_WOT Alien

    I don't think anything changed as far as CPU consumption goes for me

    AC VERSION: 1.3.4 (x64)
    POINTS: 11442
    FPS: AVG=78 MIN=3 MAX=99 VARIANCE=0 CPU=32%

    LOADING TIME: 12s
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 (3840x2160)
    OS-Version: 6.2.9200 () 0x300-0x1
    CPU CORES: 12
    FULLSCREEN: ON
    AA:4X AF:16X SHDW:2048 BLUR:0
    WORLD DETAIL: 5 SMOKE:2
    PP: QLT:5 HDR:1 FXAA:0 GLR:5 DOF:5 RAYS:1 HEAT:1
     
    Andrew_WOT, Oct 23, 2015
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  19. Jason Madigan

    Jason Madigan Simracer

    Well, after all this mucking around with the Benchmark tool I have figured out what my optimal settings are for my rig/set up. I have found this little experience this morning to be rather beneficial to my game play so hats off to the Kunos lads for that :)

    Below are the best results I have had at triple screen res without too much compromise, no HQMR, static reflections, FXAA OFF, HEAT OFF, Shadows High, Glare Normal and DOF Normal ...

    AC VERSION: 1.3.4 (x64)
    POINTS: 16648
    FPS: AVG=113 MIN=3 MAX=236 VARIANCE=3 CPU=57% (CPU starts out at 72-73 and slowly comes down over the duration of the benchmark, still something more to this I believe after getting benchmarks with over 80 at the end ... also of note, the MIN fps certainly does not do any justice here, my FPS after the initial start, merely 2 seconds in was 103 and it never dropped below that)

    LOADING TIME: 10s
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti (5760x1080)
    OS-Version: 6.2.9200 () 0x100-0x1
    CPU CORES: 8
    FULLSCREEN: ON
    AA:4X AF:16X SHDW:2048 BLUR:0
    WORLD DETAIL: 5 SMOKE:5
    PP: QLT:5 HDR:1 FXAA:0 GLR:3 DOF:3 RAYS:1 HEAT:0
     
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2015
    Jason Madigan, Oct 23, 2015
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  20. Jason Madigan

    Jason Madigan Simracer

    It is more to do with the GPU usage fluctuation and the resulting FPS fluctuation during the test ;)
     
    Jason Madigan, Oct 23, 2015
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