Ea, porsche and all the racing sims/games

Mogster · Apr 12, 2015

Berniyh said: ↑

I bet that Porsche doesn't like this deal anymore. You can't really blame them for signing a contract with EA, because back then EA wasn't that awkward and after all Porsche Unleashed was a really good game. It even made a step into the simulation direction and since there wasn't much going on with regards to simracing back then (GPL mostly), you could even say that it was leading simracing. But ok, maybe that's too much.
First I thought and hoped that it was a 10 years contract, but since the situation hasn't changed (and it's approx. 15 years now), that doesn't seem to be the case. So my bet is, that it is a self-extending contract of some sorts. Maybe it extends if EA releases one game featuring a Porsche per year. Which would of course mean that we will never see the light...

I doubt, that the current situation is pleasing Porsche. Of course, they are featured in NFS games (if there are any) and those mobile racing games, but to my experience, this isn't good marketing after all. Why? Because it's too arcade.
When I played NFS, it really didn't matter to me what car I was driving, because they all felt the same. Ok, the sounds were different and they looked a bit different, but apart from that, there was barely a difference. So where is the possibility to show that you are different from other car manufacturers? In those games, it isn't really possible to do that.

For example, I don't really like Ferrari. That's not necessarily because the cars are bad (they aren't), but mostly because the sort of person buying a Ferrari seems quite often arrogant and posing. Ok, you could say that for a lot of sports care makers, but in some way, they are different. In AC however, I sort of fell in love with the 458 (in the given variations). It's so wonderful to drive. So I'd recommend looking at it if you'd like to buy a supercar (including the fact, that the sim doesn't neccesarily represent the reality, but should be close ).

Apart from that, the only thing that bothers me at the moment is that the 918 is missing from AC. Otherwise we could just overcome that ridiculous Ferrari/McLaren power lap embargo on Top Gear and do the lap times ourselves. LaFerrari is there, the P1 is there, only the Spyder is missing.
(Pretty sure somebody will release Dunsfold as a mod.)

Also, it's unfortunate, that the arcticle doesn't mention two other games that featured Porsche: GTR2 and GTL
Both gained access to the models by the series licence, so I don't see why Project Cars wouldn't be able to do the same if they have the licence for the LeMans series?
The steam versions don't feature Porsche and Ferrari, I know. Not sure what the problem is here, apparently some licence ran out?
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From Fonsecker's posts in this thread it seems Porsche just aren't that interested in gaming.

It's inconceivable to us but that's the way it is unfortunately.

Quffy · Apr 12, 2015

I don't understand them. Maybe they are just fed up with arcade games using their cars, but there are several trustworthy sim racing games that would simulate well their cars. I think what we do here is a bit more than just gaming, is basically real life track racing, just virtually.

Berniyh · Apr 16, 2015

Mogster said: ↑

From Fonsecker's posts in this thread it seems Porsche just aren't that interested in gaming.

It's inconceivable to us but that's the way it is unfortunately.
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Might be, but I think it's more of a contract thing after all. Or let's put it this way: If they were not interested in gaming at all, why would they let EA use their cars after all?
It's not even racing that stuff they make (at least most of it).

The simulator thing might have been different, as that was not a public release of content.
But without knowing what the contract between EA and Porsche is it's hard to speculate about that sort of stuff.

Mogster · Apr 16, 2015

Berniyh said: ↑

Might be, but I think it's more of a contract thing after all. Or let's put it this way: If they were not interested in gaming at all, why would they let EA use their cars after all?
It's not even racing that stuff they make (at least most of it).

The simulator thing might have been different, as that was not a public release of content.
But without knowing what the contract between EA and Porsche is it's hard to speculate about that sort of stuff.
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We don't know the detail of the EA contract but Fonsecker suggests the situation is more complicated than a simple exclusivity clause.

Arcade representations of their products are much easier for manufacturers to deal with. The devs don't require anything apart from image rights. Kunos ask for image rights and technical data which must make things more complicated.

Pete Gaimari · Apr 16, 2015

kosh said: ↑

Old PPL drive Porsches

Here in Germany Porsche not a sportscar-maker anymore.
It stands for SUVs (Macan, Chantale) and the Panamera or luxeroury sportly shaped cars (911, boxter, ect).
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They still have the GT3, and GT3 RS. Plus, now the GT4. I'd own one, but I need to win the lottery to do it.

mclarenf1papa · Apr 17, 2015

The situation with Porsche and EA is that Porsche is entirely bound to the deal with EA. In order to follow their contract, Porsche has to take action against whatever the 'threat' may be, and in some cases (1; 2 if you count Automaniax) that's mods. It's not like Porsche really want to, it's that they pretty much have to...

Leonardo Ratafia · Apr 17, 2015

Dear Patrick, please release the porsche!!!

Berniyh · Apr 18, 2015

Mogster said: ↑

Arcade representations of their products are much easier for manufacturers to deal with. The devs don't require anything apart from image rights. Kunos ask for image rights and technical data which must make things more complicated.
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That is true, but they went that way with GTR(2) and GTL already, so I don't see that as the problem.

Let's just stay with "It sucks!".

picturaw · Apr 18, 2015

Do we know when the contract between EA and Porsche will be over ?

Mogster · Apr 18, 2015

picturaw said: ↑

Do we know when the contract between EA and Porsche will be over ?
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Porsche may be happy with the situation. As I said they don't seem to be interested in gaming.

Mogster · Apr 18, 2015

Berniyh said: ↑

That is true, but they went that way with GTR(2) and GTL already, so I don't see that as the problem.

Let's just stay with "It sucks!".
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That was 10 years ago.

St3fan · Apr 19, 2015

AccAkut said: ↑

BMW: Indicators? Never heard of those
VW: Look neighbour, I bought a car with value
Skoda: I buy VW tech for half the money
Seat: I buy VW tech for half the money, and omg it looks so sporty!!!11
Audi: You can't do 180kph while overtaking a lorry? Maybe pulling up to you bumper makes you faster.
Lada: LOOK AT ME NOT CARING ABOUT BRANDS!!!!
Dacia: Either it's cheap and I know nothing about cars or it's cheap and uses old trusty Renault parts
Porsche 911: nononono, I'm not compensating for something else
Porsche Cayenne: either my back won't allow a 911 or my husband bought me this
Chevrolet (in Europe): I know nothing about cars or feel my inner American

All based on personal experience
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