Mod Downloads to be Closed Indefinitely. (READ LAST REPLY)

Rf2 here we come!

 

do it like the LFS forum and appoint certain forum members certain moderator rights

 

perhaps @Bram would be willing to open a similar set of sub-froums in the AC section on RD to cater for this?

 

Now i understand that it is a lot of work but such is the nature of monitoring a large community, the simple fact is that assetto corsa is alive partly because of its community being a community and the modding being centralised here.

Now its meant to be a support forum yes i understand that but the simple fact is that the modding sector has taken priority massive priority and you guys should have to adapt for that.

If you need more manpower in the moderating team just go ask the people that post a lot.

All those people you banned, all those people that people that randomly attack modders or you, we will have to deal with them again.

Now im trying to word this in the best way possible as to not offend you but it likely will, the bottom line is that modding is a selling point for a lot of people that got this game, your moderation helped create a great environment, destroying such an environment makes it quite a bit harder for modders, especially with tracking progress as no other site really has the tools to properly monitor progress. Fact is that this move will push away a lot of players, a lot of modders and most of all you will lose fans as result and that means less money.

All examples of companies doing things like this in the past have ended horribly for the developers ALL EXAMPLES. Even as big as bethesda or rockstar, the facts are there. You guys are making one hell of a mistake if you go through with it.

No one benefits, you just lose fans and money

 

This... So much this... and I'd be the first of many to volunteer.

 

Care to give ACTUAL EXAMPLES? I don't remember Bethesda or Rockstar ever hosting the downloads for mods to their games and then stopping the hosting of said downloads. Sure they've done some silly decisions regarding mods, but those are a completely different situation to this.

 

Wouldnt work, with the 20 odd tracks that are in development at any time it would be a mess to track the stuff you care about, it would be like having a folder for all of your school work, you would lose things, its too much to track the important things.

 

That's a bit radical @Kunos, isn't it. I do understand that the forum 'created more work' for you, but hell, hire a few admins especially for moderating that section instead of getting rid of what AC have been all about since day 0. Charge extra 0.5 dollars/euro for the upcoming DLC so you can pay their wages? I'd happily do that. People brake rules, it's what humans do, the only way to deal with it is to embrace it (like you did with the DRM?) and show them the better way.
Rip-offs, oh just have a look and see around how many rip-offs there are in other sims, it's not only AC.

To me, 'created more work' seems like a lazy excuse and a breach of the ways you yourself set as Kunos Simulazioni. Core devs started as modders. People can easily distinguish between a good mod and a rip off just after a few laps. Quality mods always stayed on top and bad ones sank to the bottom of the page list....

I hope you find your way Kunos, I really do, things like this can break a long lasting relationship between devs and public, don't let yourself do that, you're better than this.

Yours Sincerely,

A long lasting member of this forum and an average racer.

 

So the question has to be asked, why now?

It has been (as you say) a second racedepartment for a long time and only now you choose to cut it off at the knees?

 

So Kunos decided to chose this path.

This is huge.

I am 100% that they are pretty much aware of the consequences and also the benefits of this decision.

They have proven in the past that they are pretty intelligent individuals.

I am curious to see what this will bring for this game.

TBH I would like a more detailed explanation as in my mind, moderation excuse is not enough for me. Why not simply assign this to a person that will do only that?

Let's see how this will come up.

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Nexus is 100% the best option if people can actually start using it over the sim racing options. It is way superior to all them.

 

Because at some point, you get inundated with enough threats to sue that you can no longer risk things going on the way they have.

 

On one hand, it's not the end of the world, modders can just host on another website.
On the other hand, that other website hosts every miserable rip as well which on AC forum was nicely filtered out. I'm saddened to see this move actually help illegal content spread better by removing the filter of AC forums. This move contradicts very important point K staff has made with regards to their game on something like it creates more work for us. Sure, moderating a couple mod threads is so much work you would need a team or something.
Hosting mods for your game while weeding out the garbage IS support in my oppinion. No mater how I look at this, it's textbook definition of shooting yourself in the foot.

Edit: This is 100% PRC material... sadly.

 

pretty sure he meant only the Tutorial threads in that subforum

 

Wow. I really hope this isn't somehow related to the console development, but I have a feeling it very likely is at least to some extent. I've been on these forums for a couple years now, and I certainly haven't seen some magical increase in ripped content recently. If anything, it was far worse in the past, and now one of the first things everyone seems to post in a thread is proof of the model being granted permission or a wireframe to make comparisons. This is an awful decision, and if it goes through, will be a massive downturn for AC in general and will likely just lead to a massive quality decrease in mod content.

 

So once again the minority ruin it for the majority.

So either you (as a group of people) do not want to moderate the forums or you lack the time. Fair enough.

But I am pretty sure there are people on here, who are fair and know the scene and who would moderate just that section for free. Get three users that fit the description. They are the new panel to deal with ripped content. Seems a lot simpler than shutting down modding. And if it doesn't work then you can shut it down when it fails. But this whole thing feels (from a guy who has been around since the first modded car) like a knee jerk reaction to the past month.

 

I wasn't talking about a non kunos moderator but rather a person from company to have this task exclusively and as such keeping away toxic threads.

It's curious that in this way you decide to also kill some mods which don't forget, some of them became official.

It's just sounds strange.



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