Mod Downloads to be Closed Indefinitely. (READ LAST REPLY)

I don't buy it. There must be someone else behind this.

 

How would this in any way be related to the console version? :/ I honestly cant even fathom how you made that connection other than just general PC elitism where 'consoles = bad, therefore are to blame for all problems on PC'.

And just because there hasn't been a massive increase in ripped content doesn't mean that Kunos haven't been getting more attention from legal teams behind the scenes.

 

About them getting the community to moderate...

“The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.
To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.
To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President Moderator should on no account be allowed to do the job.” -HHGttG (mostly...)

 

It was not meant rudely. From the announcement;

"However, the same section was targeted by some users that, careless of our rules and ethics, advertise contents ripped from other copyrighted software, making conversion without any authorization by the original creator and basically without any respect towards those modders that make their work from scratch. This has led to interminable discussions on the subforums resulting in a huge loss of time for the devs, moderators and those users that are very active in our community."

That to me suggests that the issues modding was creating was more than you felt it was bringing to the game. Hence you do not want to moderate it anymore on here. Which is why I said fair enough in my answer (meant in understanding).

 

' This has led to interminable discussions on the subforums resulting in a huge loss of time for the devs, moderators and those users that are very active in our community.'

@kevin.maatman - directly off the thread. Losing your time.....

 

This is such a counter-productive move it's really laughable Maybe it will be easier for you guys now, but basically i will now have no idea what is a legal mod and what isn't, everything will be a mixed up mess.

AC forum was pretty much a filter of legal and quality mods, i always avoided downloading anything from other sources..

Just wow.

 

If it's due to legal issues then the console publisher could pressure Kunos to make the decision. The PC version has been influenced by 505 giving money to Kunos for added content and their name is now on the product trailers for the PC content. Maybe it isn't console related, but "an increase in ripped content" is definitely not true as I'm sure most people can attest to who have been on these forums for years. But yeah, it's definitely my hate for consoles showing as I'm sitting here playing my PS4. I will admit, my Xbox One is a bit dusty.

 

"3d Models" and "Tracks" subforums of the modding section is the reason why i come here everyday.

 

THIS!

@Kunos I really HOPE that you have enough sense to KEEP the HOW TO DO sections! At least read only!

You've made a wonderful tool, if you like, for other people to use and create content. But the title that binds that all together is the Assetto Corsa logo and the wonderful and friendly community that makes this game great at the 1st place.
Some of your own creations came through official threads - like the Cobra mod that was so good it turned as official content.

I understand the point of rights - some teams, brands are just TOO DAMN SELFISH and will ask a lot of money to have their cars in the game. I guess this is also true for tracks.
But telling me constructing a Opel Astra mod, for example, will fetch legal action to you ...
This could be the only point - legal action - that I would lightly accept for such drastic measure.

And what about the little but extremely important tools that actually DOES NOT exist in the game? Like the Odometer, or the Brake help indicator? Pure genius applications!

@kevin.maatman - I really hope your words are true and you focus on the game though. Because you do understand that when the mod content, ripped or not, gets out ... it will be the game that will get the spotlight and whatever problems it has will become even more clear? Nobody is perfect.

Good post.

 

I don´t like this at all, but I understand the reason for it.

I have a slight hunch of something else behind this and the 17th announcement, but I´ll keep that to myself for now as I have no further info.

We´ll see what this does to the forum and to AC and quality mod development. And to my affection towards AC.

 

well, I think that this move will only create and diffuse more and more illegal rips, this forum is the primary base for downloading content (I think for 90% of AC players), people will be diverted to unofficial places where they may can find only ripped trash, why can't kunos hires a couple of moderators to only control the content here?

 

steam workshop?

 

same here the quality of the mods and the amazing development of new ones kept me coming back.

 

Just because a mod is scratch made doesn't mean it is legal.

 

I really don't think I will have any need to visit this forum any more, sadly

I race fair bit, work on tracks rather a lot, and have no issues with getting the game to run. If this forum is now to become solely a 'Support Forum' run by the team to help people with problems, I have no reason to be here. It's great that they are willing to support newcomers get their game running smoothly, but who would visit once AC is running fine on their PC?

It's a real shame, because this place felt like home, too. I honestly feel that without a link to fellow racers / modders such as this forum, AC would become completely dehumanised to me, and I think I would lose interest very quickly.

 

I don't mind moving shop to other sites for modding related things as I already use RD as my main outlet, but Kevin keeps using the term "majority" when it comes to people breaking rules on ripped content like it is going out of style. Is there for real a rampant plague of ripped mods over on this website? I mean you do see a couple ripped content screenshots pop up in the screenshots section every once in a blue moon and people generally tear the poster a new orifice for posting mere screenies, so I doubt any ripped mod be it car/track/whatever would last even a day here without getting lynched hard. And he does say it is not a moderation issue, so I'm genuinely curious about what rules the majority of people here are breaking constantly that is leading to a unnecessary time sink for the admins. Sorry if I'm misinformed on any recent developments, I'm on a vacation right now.

 

Not 'legal' in that regard No mod with real name can be considered legal, but that's why they're free right.. and that shi* works for decades now.

 

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Any real brand name used, be that manufacturer, sponsor or track name or even some design IPs in a mod will make it illegal since rarely will a mod have written consent on behalf of the owner of that IP. Going by this we can phase out modding as a whole. Nobody wants to drive a Dorsche. Which in itself is a gray area since the body itself is arguably an IP.