Non dlc players playing with dlc players?

arent you clever! hope you enjoy the "likes" you will get for your genius wit.

would reply with why that quote is not the be all end all, but obviously you arent interested in actually discussing the topic. time to go on that list with blame and co.

 

You win... I give up. You've had the answer to the question from the horses mouth, you continue to flog that horse.

I'm not suggesting that the mods close the thread in the slightest. Like I said, it's providing me with some smiles after a long day flogging a dead horse at work. I'll bow out so that you can continue flogging yours for as long as you want. Have fun, hope you get what you wish for. At least you've contributed for the DLC so the likelihood of it happening is improved.

Ciao

Edit: Btw, I've just given Mr. Hornbuckle a like to get the ball rolling... 1st one I've ever given him too

 

Good thing your gone. All you ever did was forcing your opinion on others, beeing offtopic for the most part, like your last posts and never really contributed to discussion. Only quoting an old outdated statement issnt discussing.
You never shown any real arguments instead all you wrote were hidden insults and sarcasm.

But i still dont agree with kofotsjanne that it might be an easy feat. The Game itself developed alot further than the last time it was discussed and the bigger the game gets and the more content it has, also the code gets bigger. It will be needed even more then but on the other hand also be harder to realise.
We still down know how many Lines of Code they would need to change also they would need to locate the what needs to be changed to get it to work. They would need to change how gets downloaded and patched for which group. They would need to recode a good amount of the MP Module.
And as the game has no real Class grouping but only a Tag system, this doesnt make it any better. They should work on it when they further develop the MP system anyways and yeah it may get a big problem on consoles anyways, as they have gotten used to casual playing together now even more than PC Users do. I dont even think that consoles and PC can drive against each other in the future, as only very few games allow this.

 

I love circles. You can start from anywhere, and eventually you will get back to your starting position. Then you can do it all over again.....and again....and again....

 

works with such offtopic posts as well. Everyone of them is a circle in itself.

 

Yeah, it is not a magical solution that creates itself. It does take some effort.

No they would not.

I have actually a working proof of concept made out of formula_k... Took me a whole one hour to make and that's because I made my own 3d model... What it does:
- allows you to join to server which has dlc content (no checksum error). For example server has monza+z4_gt3+nissan_gt3. You can join using the z4_gt3 while having formula_k based nissan_gt3.
- doesn't allow you to drive the car online (you get checksum error when trying to join)
- you can drive the car offline but it has formula_k physics and no sounds
- collider.kn5 is from my jaguar but collisions seemed kinda fine-ish after quick checking.
- proof of concept is based on ks_gtr_gt3. Doesn't use one single file from the dlc car.
- it looks super sexy:

 

means it doesnt have much protection against missuse as well on the other hand. that would need to be implemented ^^

 

What misuse???

 

trying to drive online with them without buying for the dlc.

 

Since other games do it perfectly fine, i doubt you have to worry about that.

 

I don't get to play AC half as much as I'd like to. When I get the time to play, it is mostly off line, basically practicing. Because my time on AC is so precious, when I do go online, I do organised races through racedepartment. I rarely just jump into an online race. As such doing a race on racedepartment feels like an event to me, I practice in the days running up and enjoy the tension of taking place in a race against real people. I admit I'm not the atypical average player, but neither is the guy playing 3 hours a day, mostly online. Most people are somewhere in the middle.

I think thematic DLC would be a great idea, I've said as much in the past, but I appreciate that could come with it's own licensing problems, I could also see that it might be more of a niche market. The first few DLC have had something for everybody. I don't mind that. I like the variety. It's a case of "You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time".

AC hasn't really been out all that long, there's only been two DLC. I just don't see why people get so upset over these relatively minor issues. Make suggestions sure, most of these ideas are good, I'd love to see them all implemented, I just don't expect it to happen any time soon. But who knows what the future holds.

 

You can't drive it online.... you wont get through the checksum test... sigh... even if you tried to drive it it has formula_k physics...

 

if you get original files you get through.
it was even possible to race with a illegal pcars online as far as i heard.

 

Sorry ears... brief return as the delectable Mr. SpriGgy obviously thinks it's OK to hand out backhanded insults when he thinks I've departed from the thread and accuse me of doing stuff I haven't. Look dude, I may have quoted a months old post, Mr. Hornbuckle quoted the 2nd post in this thread. AC have no plans, as of yet, to allow non dlc owners to use the dlc. Keep flogging, ignored and I'll think on reporting that post.

@Christopher Low Yep, should have jumped off the merry go round a while back. I'm a fool to myself. It's been "fun" though.

 

Yeah, if you get original files... what's your point exactly?

 

double

 

@Turk so why even comment on the issue if you dont even play public mp where this limitation is actually an issue. thats like me saying AI is fine as is, and shouldnt be improved any more just because I only play MP.

@dauntless interesting, you tested this on an actual MP server? i thought the client checked the data.acd of all cars vs the server (not just the one you selected to drive)? the server has to have the actual gtr_gt3 data.acd, so when it checks your client with the formula k one, surely it fails? if thats not the case, then perhaps this is indeed even easier to implement than initially thought. one thing perhaps you havent considered, im pretty sure when you join a server with the dlc, some kind of drm check is done (i think you can see it in log.txt for each dlc car). so the main thing that could require some code change would be adusting the license check to cater for this system

 

I don't suppose you will ever understand then. This is something that based on how the current system works will get worse as time goes on with more DLC. I also object to it on general principle.

 

Yeah I tested it quickly. I changed my gtr_gt3 (I have the first dlc) to formula_k with essentially just the same name as the gtr_gt3. Then I joined on gt3 server wher I drove the mclaren myself and there was someone else driving the gtr_gt3. Collisions worked, no errors or stutters, no issues I noticed. No problems as far as I could see. The server had the checksum system running. It works like I've said it works for long time already.

No, only the car you are driving yourself is tested. The other cars don't need data.acd, just the edited formula_k data folder is enough.

You can't join the server by using dlc car yourself that is based on formula_k if the server has checksum system working. You will be blocked and kicked out by the checksum test. If the server is not running checksum system then you will get in but you are driving a car with formula_k physics.

 

Someone here do not understand concept of dummy car, it could be me so I`ll explain.

This car do not have physics, you can not use it online nor offline.
It is just place holder for content that user do not have.
Only data, that is needed for that place holder, is dimensions of car that it replaces (collisions) ... nothing more, nothing less.
After all, when you are online, your game do not use physics for other cars - only coordinates, shape and sounds.

Having locked content opens the door for exploit so it is perfectly understandable devs wishes not to make job easier for those who do not respect their work by unlocking content without paying.