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Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge 183 – Rampant in the Wild West

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by Totall Wrytoff, Jun 13, 2020.

  1. Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap Challenge 183 – Rampant in the Wild West

    This idea for this week’s challenge, as with most weeks, is to try to totally contrast with last week’s (mega) challenge! So, this week, it is lots of space and lots of wild thrust.

    Challenge: Hotlap
    Car: Ferrari F40
    Track: Black Cat County Long
    The Porsche Cayman S was the original thought for this week, but it stays in the garage, still unused in WHC.
    Superb car. Another day. It is a bit quiet and sensible.

    Instead, we are going to ride a Cavallino Rampante, the wild Ferrari F40. Keeping to the WHC objective of providing variety, it is not at all short on power and we are going to have plenty of room. Four lanes in fact!
    The change of plan is entirely due to how masochistically fun the F40 is, (we’ve already run it at Spa and around the Alex Nordschleife,) and secondly, due an article I’ve just read in car mag, evo.
    The article compares the driving of the 288 GTO, F40, F50 and the Enzo and is a repeat due to covid, but anyway having read about driving the F40, I felt we all had to do it! Even if it is again!
    I hope the very excellent motoring hack John Barker, in return for a named credit (!) won’t mind me using his lovely, inspiring prose:

    “…the twin IHI turbos spool up progressively, the steering is light enough to allow rapid correction and the F40’s chassis is poised and faithful.
    Slot third gear, squeeze the throttle and you can enjoy most of the F40’s power without provoking the tail. This isn’t a fizz-bang turbocharged engine; once it’s on boost you can meter out the thrust with satisfying precision, conducting the ebb and flow to match the road as it unfolds before you.”

    Sounds fun, but make no mistake, John Barker is a helm-smith of the highest order. Driving the F40, (on the sim!) you are constantly aware that you are managing something wild and with its own will, provoked by your right foot. And that something wild is no pussy cat, although it does demand you be gentle and smooth. If you are clumsy, especially in the slower corners and extra especially in the fast corners, it will face you the other way and spit you into the barrier. I should mention, there is no TCS and no ABS.
    Good laugh.
    NB – In testing and after last week, I was surprised to find that you have to be quite ham-footed to lock up in the F40. Or panicking due to the speed you are doing and the fast closing proximity of the wall ahead. The brakes squeak and squeal, which would indicate racing brakes and they need warming up before optimum performance, perhaps. (Is that modelled in AC?)
    We’ve only used Black Cat County Long twice before in nearly 200 WHCs. One of those times was as recently as WHC168, using the LMP Hybrid Porsche, but, if you entered that challenge, you won’t recognise it as the same track. It feels twice as long.
    (Here’s a track map, please feel free to chip in with corner name suggestions or alternatives to those proposed.)

    The long wide, fictional road suits the F40 perfectly. Mostly.
    In the few second gear corners you will really need to be on your toes as you try to deploy the power.
    Oh yes indeedy you will!
    1st gear? Crazy idea, much safer to wait for 2nd to spool up.
    The amount of torque getting through to the rears is deceptive. Once you realise… it’s too late.
    Third gear covers most of the circuit in a very satisfying manner. Fourth gear gets the heart rate and fear factor up, because by now you are really travelling and you know what’s coming.
    Very, very excitingly at Black Cat Long, even with the F40’s intergalactic gearing, there’s room to hit fifth gear.
    However, this comes with quite a large caveat and it brings me nicely to Turn 2.

    On your first hotlap you will approach Turn 2 in fifth through the long, easy turn one, no doubt revelling in the rich seam of torquey thrust. But, trust me, selecting fifth is a decision with very big implications.
    As soon as fifth is engaged, you need to start thinking very deeply and extremely quickly about how you are going to stop. You don’t have much time and you need to get the answer exactly right….
    On your second hotlap, if you are like me, you will stay safely in fourth!
    Turn two, “The Mare,” is not named after a female wild pony. I think this is one of the most difficult corners, to get absolutely right, or even get around, in the whole of Assetto Corsa. As you get onto the brakes you absolutely have to have the car pointing straight. You’ll see what I mean!
    Most especially in the F40. It is all about slowing the car correctly, getting the very narrow entry right and getting every single one of the multiple corrections correct as you deploy the power and exit. Same goes for Turn 5, in the right hand sweeper, you need to get the car straight before slowing. Oh, and I would take 3rd gear through Dream’s End. 2nd is only for those with the fastest of reactions and also at the very top of their game!
    Otherwise the wide turns allow you to “meter out the thrust” as described above (or, get it wrong and have time to correct.)
    I managed to flip it and travel quite a distance, airborne and upside down.
    As we learnt from last week, accuracy and precision are worth whole seconds. Even though the roads are wide, this week still demands you get the lines precisely right. (See pic above.) Once there, sit back and let the car do the work. Give it plenty of time, don’t try to rush the braking or hustle it through a turn, let the road unfold before you!
    Apart from Turn 2. Eyes out on stalks!

    Street tyres or Semi slicks, recommended operating PSI is:
    ..Street – Front 38 Rear 40 (good luck!)
    ..Semi slicks – Front 30 Rear 32

    What’s the pace?
    The best time so far is a 4:00.017
    The next best is a 4:05 and I’ve just done a 4:08 on a twitchy, tip toe-eey test lap, (stock save for tyres and pressures) which would put me 5th.
    So it’s down to us this week, I suspect the podiums will be in the mid to low 3 mins 50 secs range… with the top step occupied by a 3 mins high 40s…..?

    Unbutton the shirt, pop the big medallion on and let it rip!
    Carefully though.

    How to take part:
    To enter, select Hotlap, choose the Ferrari F40 and the Black Cat County Long Circuit.
    Please setup the session as shown below:
    Mode: Hotlap
    Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
    Setup: Time of day: Free / Controller: Free / Assists: Free / Stability: Free
    To qualify you must have the ambient temp set to 26 DegC.

    Deadline: Sunday 21st June 2020
    Chequered Flag will drop shortly before 6pm.

    You can run as many laps as you can manage and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, pushing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome. To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading (Hotlap) and of course the car being used!
    Please use the following format to post your times:
    (Only required if you have already posted a time)
    Your name (as you would like it to appear on the leaderboard)
    Your time - shown as x.xx.xxx.
    Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
    The screen shot showing your time.
    (Optional but in the spirit) Your thoughts or any comment
    Please post video clips and share information here as well.

    Weekly Hotlap Challenge History
    1. Mugello - Praga R1 (Posted by John Gordon 3 Oct, 2016)
    2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
    3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12 (GravelTrap 19 Oct 16)
    4. Magione - Lotus 2 Eleven
    5. Silverstone International - Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    6. Zandvoort - Pagani Huayra
    7. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
    8. Spa - BMW M3 GT2
    9. Vallelunga Club - KTM X-Bow R
    10. Barcelona - Moto - Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    11. Silverstone 1967 - Lotus 72D
    12. Nordschleife - Porsche 911 Carrera S
    13. Black Cat County - Ferrari LaFerrari
    14. Monza Junior 1966 - Alfa Romeo GTA
    15. Redbull Ring GP - Lamborghini Gallardo SL
    16. Zandvoort - Ford Escort RS1600
    17. Imola - Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
    18. Brands Hatch GP - Lotus Exige V6 Cup
    19. Monza - Ferrari FXX K
    20. Barcelona - Moto - Ferrari 488 GT3
    21. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV
    22. Silverstone GP - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
    23. Nurburgring Sprint GT - Toyota AE86 Tuned
    24. Magione - Maserati Levante S
    25. Spa - Lotus 98T
    26. Vallelunga - Classic - Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick"
    27. Nordschleife Endurance Cup - M235i Racing
    28. Silverstone 1967 - Maserati 250F T2 12C
    29. Red Bull Ring National - BMW 1M (HavanaB0B, 1 May 17)
    30. Zandvoort - Lotus Evora GX
    31. Barcelona GP - Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1
    32. Brands Hatch Indy - Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack (Graveltrap 21 May 17)
    33. Black Cat County Long - Lamborghini Countach
    34. Imola - Mercedes Benz 190E Evo II
    35. Monza - Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    36. Nurburgring Sprint GT - BMW M3 E30
    37. Magione - Mercedes SLS AMG
    38. Spa - Porsche 917/30 Spyder
    39. Silverstone GP - Nissan GT-R Nismo (Hugo Catarino, 9 July 17)
    40. RedBull Ring GP - Alfa Romeo 4c
    41. Brands Hatch GP - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
    42. Highlands Long - Ford GT40
    43. Vallelunga - Lotus GTE Carbon
    44. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 Turbo S (Graveltrap 13 Aug 17)
    45. Nordschleife - Ferrari 312T
    46. Mugello - BMW M3 E92
    47. Black Cat County - Short - Ford Mustang 2015
    48. Imola - Maserati MC12 GT1
    49. Silverstone 1967 - Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    50. Barcelona Moto - McLaren 570S
    51. Magione - Mazda Miata NA
    52. Spa - Ferrari F40
    53. Vallelunga - Corvette C7 Stingray (Moodyryder 23 Oct 17)
    54. Brands Hatch GP - Tatuus FA01
    55. Highlands - Lotus 3 eleven
    56. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo
    57. Monza 1966 Full Course - Ferrari 312/67
    58. Nordschleife - Porsche 962 C Short Tail
    59. Zandvoort- Nissan 370Z Nismo
    60. Silverstone GP - McLaren F1
    61. Vallelunga Classic - Ferrari 250GTO
    62. Imola - Lotus 98T
    63. Highlands Drift - P4/5 Competizione
    64. Mugello - Lamborghini Aventador SV
    65. Spa - Porsche 911R
    66. Black Cat County - Lotus 2-Eleven GT4
    67. Barcelona GP - Ferrari SF70H
    68. Nordschleife Endurance & Highlands - Porsche 917k
    69. Zandvoort - Lotus Exige Scura (Hugo Catarino 25 Feb 18)
    70. RedBull Ring National - Maserati Alfieri
    71. Laguna Seca - Audi Sport quattro S1 E2
    72. Brands Hatch - McLaren P1
    73. Imola - Porsche 911 RSR
    74. Nurburgring GP - Ferrari F2004
    75. Barcelona Moto - Lamborghini Huracan Performante
    76. Silverstone 1967 - Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
    77. Magione - BMW 1M Stage 3
    78. Highlands Long - Mazda 787b
    79. Black Cat County - Toyota GT86
    80. Spa - Toyota TS040 Hybrid
    81. Vallelunga Classic - Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec
    82. Mugello - Ferrari 458 GT2
    83. Silverstone International - RUF R12 R AWD
    84. Highlands Long - Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014
    85. Monza - Pagani Zonda R
    86. Nordschleife - Lotus 3-eleven
    87. Zandvoort - Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4
    88. Redbull Ring GP - Mercedes Sauber C9
    89. Brands Hatch - Lotus Type 25
    90. Highlands Short - Abarth 595 SS
    91. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Audi TT Cup
    92. Monza 1966 - Road Course - Porsche 908 LH
    93. Vallelunga - BMW M3 E30 Gr.A 92
    94. Laguna Seca - Alfa Romeo Mito QV
    95. Nordschleife - RUF Yellowbird & Ferrari F40
    96. Barcelona GP - BMW Z4 GT3
    97. Highlands Drift - Ferrari 458 Italia
    98. Spa - Lotus Type 49
    99. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 GT1-98
    100. Silverstone - Nissan GT-R GT3;
    100. Brands Hatch - Lotus Exige V6; Vallelunga - free car
    101. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
    102. Silverstone National - Mazda MX5 Cup or Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    103. Highlands Short – Ford Escort RS1600 (Totall Wrytoff 11 Nov 18)
    104. Black Cat Short – Porsche 917/30
    105. Monza 66 Junior Course – Ferrari F40 S3
    106. Magione – Toyota Supra MkIV
    107. Brands Hatch Indy 5 lap - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    107. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    108. Nordschleife - Abarth 595SS
    108 Laguna Seca 5 lap - McLaren F1 GTR
    109. Brands Hatch - Ferrari FXX K
    110. Highlands – Lamborghini Miura P400 SV
    111. Imola - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG 003C
    112. Vallelunga Club – Lotus Exos T125
    113. Highlands Drift - Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport
    114. Barcelona Moto - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder
    115. Silverstone GP – Ferrari F138
    116. Laguna Seca – Lotus 72D
    117. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari SF15-T
    118. Spa Francorchamps – Maserati Quattroporte GTS
    119. Zandvoort – Toyota AE86
    120. Silverstone National – BMW M3 E92 Step 1
    121. Silverstone 1967 – Ford GT40
    122. Nurburgring GP - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2016
    123. Highlands Drift Circuit – Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder
    124. Nordschleife Endurance – Porsche 962C Long Tail
    125. Red Bull Ring National - Audi R8 V10 Plus
    126. Imola – Ferrari 330 P4
    127. Monza 1966 Road Course - Pagani Huayra BC
    128. Mugello – Ferrari GTO
    129. Vallelunga – Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
    130. Black Cat County – Shelby Cobra 427S/C
    131. Laguna Seca – Lotus Evora GTC
    132. Brands Hatch GP – McLaren MP4 12C
    133. Highlands Long – Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    134. Monza GP – Lamborghini Gallardo SL S3/ Countach S1
    135. Magione – Mazda MX-5 ND
    136. Nordschleife Endurance Cup – Ferrari F2004
    137. Barcelona Moto – Lotus Exige S Roadster
    138. Monza 1966 Full Course – Porsche 918 Spyder
    139. Spa Francorchamps – Ferrari 812 Superfast
    140. Zandvoort – Mercedes Benz AMG GT3
    141. Silverstone GP – Porsche Cayman GT4
    142. Vallelunga Classic – Tatuus FA10
    143. Brands Hatch GP - Audi Quattro Sport Step 1
    144. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari 488 GTB
    145. Nurburgring GP (GT ) – BMW M3 E30 Group A
    146. Imola – Ferrari 458 Italia Step 3
    147. Laguna Seca – KTM X-Bow R
    148. Mugello – Ford GT40
    149. Vallelunga Club – Maserati Levante S (Posted by Graveltrap!)
    150. Nordschleife - Lotus 98T (October 2019 - Posted by Totall Wrytoff)
    150. Nordschleife - Nissan Nismo GT-R
    150. Highlands - Mercedes-Benz C9 1989 LM
    150. Brands Hatch Indy - McLaren P1 GTR (Race event)
    151. Barcelona Moto – Lamborghini Huracan ST
    152. Spa Francorchamps – Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    153. Brands Hatch GP – Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    153. Silverstone ’67 – Mercedes SLS AMG (Race event)
    154. Monza GP - Audi R8 LMS 2016
    155. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche Panamera Turbo (First thread by F1415182235)
    156. Silverstone International - Mazda RX-7 Tuned
    157. Highlands Short - Ferrari 599XX EVO
    158. Barcelona GP - Porsche 962C Short Tail
    159. Monza 1966 Road Course – McLaren 570S (Posted by Totall Wrytoff)
    159. Imola – BMW M4 Akrapovic
    159. Black Cat County Short – Lotus Type 49
    160. Mugello – BMW M3 E30 Step 1
    161. Spa Francochamps – McLaren 650s GT3
    162. Magione - Ruf CTR Yellowbird
    163. Highlands Drift – Lotus Elise SC Step 1
    164. Silverstone GP - Tatuus FA01
    165. Nurburgring Sprint - Guilietta QVLE (First thread by Pretend racer)
    166. Highlands Long – Ferrari 330P4 and Ford GT40 (Posted by moodyryder)
    167. Zandvoort – Porsche Cayenne Turbo S (Totall Wrytoff)
    168. Black Cat County Long - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2015
    169. Vallelunga Club – Porsche 718 Boxster S (Pr)
    170. Imola – Ferrari F2004 (TW)
    171. Brands Hatch Indy - Abarth 595 SS Step 2 (TW)
    171. Nordschleife Endurance - BMW Z4 E89
    172. Laguna Seca – Audi Sport Quattro (Pr)
    173. Red Bull Ring GP - Toyota Supra MKIV (Mdyrdr)
    174. Brands Hatch GP - Audi TT RS VLN (TW)
    174. Mugello - Mazda 787B
    175. Highlands Short - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder (DrvMd)
    175. Black Cat County - Maserati 250F 12 cylinder
    176. Nurburgring GP - Lamborghini Huracan GT3 (Pr)
    177. Spa Francochamps – Porsche 911 GT3 RS (Mdyrdr)
    178. Silverstone GP – Lotus Type 25 or Elise SC (TW)
    179. Laguna Seca – Praga R1
    180. Monza 1966 Junior Course - Audi S1 (Pr)
    180. Monza 1966 Junior Course - BMW M3 E30 Step 1
    181. Nurburgring GP (GT) – Lotus Evora S (Mdy)
    182. Nordschleife – Mazda MX5 ND (GG.e/TW)
    183. Black Cat County Long – Ferrari F40

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  3. Peggy11

    Peggy11 Hardcore Simmer

    Fantastic write up as ever @Totall Wrytoff . I shall look forward to this with trepidation, something tells me this may be more tricky than the previous WHC :p
  4. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    Lovely motivating write up @Totall Wrytoff :cool:

    Never ever have set a foot on that track :oops:
  5. Totall Wrytoff
    Just to get the ball rolling.
    Here is a lap where I held on and stayed upright all the way to the end!
    Adding to my intro above, to start with, the car feels horrendous and your nervous inputs unsettle it further.
    But you get used to it and after a few laps you can start to drive it with confidence.

    Your mindset needs to be; "I'm the boss!" rather than "Don't punish me Mistress..." ( o_O)
    I hope to get to a second or two off the 4 mins mark this week.:)
  6. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

    pretend racer


    I tried to use my screencapture to record my lap like I always do, but this time there was a few spots where the screen just went red. Not sure why that is happening. I used the ingame replay and then screen captured that and it worked fine...

    I forgot to save the setup that I used to set my fast lap. The settings were -1.5 camber front, -1.4 camber rear. Toe was around 12 or 13 front and rear, I think. I'll probably have another go at this cause there was a few spots where I was in the wrong gear or shifted when I didn't need to, etc. I might be able to shave another second or so. I'll make sure to save my setup too. But next time I'm gonna make it cloudy because the 'white' road was blinding me...
  7. WAY-HEY! Three fifty five!!
    Wow. I think that's a stunning time @Pretend racer.
    There aren't many reeds around here, but I've found them and been blown into them!
    Great vid. Regarding my comment above, you obviously The Boss.
    We know you like a loose rear end but that's great car control. I would have crashed a number of times if that was me driving.:)
  8. moodyryder

    moodyryder Hardcore Simmer



    Tough car for me to handle. Without the tyre pressures adjusted it was a spin fest.

    Same time as TW and a few people have never played Black Cat so I recorded it as a bit of a track introduction.

    Then when it comes time to post I see PR is a fifth of a minute faster. :) :)

    Ah well, it's uploaded now so I might as well post it. But if you want any tips, watch the other one!

    (Always read the label, terms & conditions apply, several million dollars worth of virtual vehicle were harmed during the making of this film)
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2020
  9. :D:D:D

    So shocking in fact, I wrote a post!:D

    Join me in the reeds.:)

    PS: Fun to watch your nicely realistic lap!:)
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2020
  10. OK, Moody. I'll see your Martin Sheen and raise you Terry Crews!:D:D:D
    Here's my track introduction, art version:

    Fluttering wastegates! Watching this, I'm amazed it's me driving.:rolleyes:
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2020
  11. Improvement
    Totall Wrytoff
    Immediate improvement having watched Pr and Moody's laps.:)

    And, having driven quite a few more laps.
  12. HandyAndy1962

    HandyAndy1962 Hardcore Simmer


    I’ve lost count of how many laps it’s taken me to get round without hitting something. I went round very slowly for 2 or 3 laps to try and memorise the track but as soon as I tried to go faster I was hitting the barriers right, left & centre. I took this lap a bit more gently. There’s definitely a LOT of room for improvement but it’s not a car that I feel comfortable with.

    Attached Files:

  13. HandyAndy1962

    HandyAndy1962 Hardcore Simmer


    After a few more attempts I managed 2 clean laps in a row, each faster than before. I’ve improved by 10 seconds but I’m a bit afraid to push too hard & completely lose control, especially in the corners where the braking zones seem so long. I think I’ll be happy if I can knock another 5 seconds off my time, anything else would be a bonus.

    Attached Files:

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  14. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    Bastian Boillot

    I am rubbish with a controller.....

  15. HandyAndy1962

    HandyAndy1962 Hardcore Simmer

    I’m rubbish with a wheel.
    Peggy11, Neilski, P308R and 1 other person like this.
  16. @P308R - Wow, great effort to get round using the controller!

    What has happened to your wheel?

    @HandyAndy1962 - :D!
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  17. HandyAndy1962

    HandyAndy1962 Hardcore Simmer


    I wondered if it was worth posting just for an improvement of a second but as it’s faster I shouldn’t really complain.

    Attached Files:

  18. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    Bastian Boillot

    A proper man's car that F40 :)

    @Totall Wrytoff Had a connection issue but got it solved. Still I struggle with this. That Turbo kicks in and it blows everything to parts under your bum :oops:
  19. HandyAndy1962

    HandyAndy1962 Hardcore Simmer


    Just over a 3 second improvement. Braking a bit earlier seems to have helped a lot and I’m trying not to rush things quite so much. That will do for one day.

    Attached Files:

  20. Has everyone seen this?

    "Audi have fired Formula E racer Daniel Abt after a professional gamer played under his name in an esports version of the series."

    Unbelievable. Crazy.
    How excruciatingly embarrassing too.

    And it highlights just how far online racing has risen in the last few months. A year ago, people would have laughed. Now, you loose your day job.

    So any unusually big improvements this week and I'm going to think you've flown @GoodGame.eXistenZ in to do your Hot Lap!!:D
    (How much for that GG.e, with accommodation provided?);)
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2020
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  21. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    Bastian Boillot

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