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Ferrari DLC & 1.15 - Discuss Away

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Schnipp, Sep 19, 2017.

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  1. Michael Hornbuckle

    Michael Hornbuckle Alien

    Protip: Add damper in your profiler.
    [​IMG]
     
    Michael Hornbuckle, Sep 22, 2017
    #421
  2. stefanoCasillo

    stefanoCasillo Alien

    most probably because the underlying physics is different.. but the approach to FF is exactly the same: only pass what should be felt through the steering wheel, nothing else.
     
    stefanoCasillo, Sep 22, 2017
    #422
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  3. Michael Hornbuckle

    Michael Hornbuckle Alien

    Unless people want more, then you begrudgingly give them effects/enhancements and maybe even a canned effect or two. :D
     
    Michael Hornbuckle, Sep 22, 2017
    #423
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  4. stefanoCasillo

    stefanoCasillo Alien

    yes but I wouldn't characterize them as "forces" but rather as "vibrations" which is a totally different concept.
     
    stefanoCasillo, Sep 22, 2017
    #424
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  5. chakko

    chakko Alien

    Alright, thanks for the heads up. Guess that's another myth shattered then. :D As i mentioned, i find iRacing's FFB pretty synthetic, and unnatural anyway, so i was wondering a bit about the argument that it is because it only features the forces really getting to the wheel. Will remember it next time someone comes with the "pure FFB" argument.
     
    chakko, Sep 22, 2017
    #425
  6. mantasisg 2

    mantasisg 2 Alien

    I love enhanced understeer effect and the new ABS effect.
     
    mantasisg 2, Sep 22, 2017
    #426
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  7. Orne

    Orne Alien

    I find the ABS effect very helpful ! Well done gents !
     
    Orne, Sep 22, 2017
    #427
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  8. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    At very low speed (not sure about the speed, but I think it was up to 3 km/h), AC adds damper, which is configurable through an ini file.
    iirc it is to prevent oscillations like you sometimes see with AMS or rFactor when the car is standing still.
    Other than that it should be similar.

    IMO the "physics go through to the wheel" is one of the reasons why – as @GamerMuscle stated correctly in the pC2 thread – in AC every car feels quite good from the start, there is much less variation than in other sims.
    And there is no need to "fine-tune" the FFB for each individual car (apart from maybe adjusting the overall strength).
     
    Berniyh, Sep 22, 2017
    #428
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  9. chakko

    chakko Alien

    I think i'll give those damper effects a try that Michael mentioned. Didn't know about that, i always thought the spring and damper settings have no effect, because no sim uses those.
     
    chakko, Sep 22, 2017
    #429
  10. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    Careful, you might get banned for mentioning the understeer effect. :D
     
    Berniyh, Sep 22, 2017
    #430
  11. arthur666

    arthur666 Alien

    It was really needed. It was hard to threshold brake using just the "electronics" icon. Great addition.
     
    arthur666, Sep 22, 2017
    #431
  12. stefanoCasillo

    stefanoCasillo Alien


    this guy


    gets it

    :)
     
    stefanoCasillo, Sep 22, 2017
    #432
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  13. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    Thanks. You might consider for AC2 (or whatever the next project will be called) to add volume, tune, Fx and Fy sliders.

    Just don't mention that they don't do anything and be surprised by the responses. :D
     
    Berniyh, Sep 22, 2017
    #433
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  14. stefanoCasillo

    stefanoCasillo Alien

    I'm working on it already.. sneak preview of the new FF ini section :p

    [AC2_FF_PREVIEW]
    FLAVOUR=TAGLIATELLE_BOLOGNESE ; or MARGHERITA, 4_STAGIONI, SALSICCE_E_FRIARIELLI, LASAGNA, TIRAMISU'
    VOLUME=11
    GAIN=11
    BASS=11
    MID=11
    TREBLE=11
    PRESENCE=11
    PLACEBO_EFFECT=0 ; 1=sorry, you are in the placebo group but thanks for playing
     
    stefanoCasillo, Sep 22, 2017
    #434
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  15. Orne

    Orne Alien

    Exactly !

    I suppose those who can afford hydraulic pedals have a better feel !
     
    Orne, Sep 22, 2017
    #435
  16. Gevatter

    Gevatter Alien

    No reverb? Pff... amateurs! :D
     
    Gevatter, Sep 22, 2017
    #436
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  17. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    Loadcell is good enough, no need for hydraulic pedals.
    But the feel of the pedal is … you put pressure on it and see what happens.

    Braking (and modulating the brake) the correct way is just a learning process, you can't really do it right from the very start in a simulator.
    Some are better in it, some are worse. Pressure-sensitive brake pedals make it a bit easier to be consistent, but the learning process is the same.
     
    Berniyh, Sep 22, 2017
    #437
  18. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    I guess that'll be a DLC, together with surround FFB support.
     
    Berniyh, Sep 22, 2017
    #438
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  19. mantasisg 2

    mantasisg 2 Alien

    BUT WHY ? OH NO PLEASE

    Is that darkade forcez, not legit ffb thing ?

    I think it is awesome anyway :D
     
    mantasisg 2, Sep 22, 2017
    #439
  20. Luis Branco

    Luis Branco Alien

    Tiramisu for me please, in double, no... triple.:D
     
    Luis Branco, Sep 22, 2017
    #440
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