A thread for project cars

I can't see the difference between the tire model of AC and pCars and BeamNG. I mean, really see it visually.

It seems that I still have to learn a lot about simracing.

 

The damage how stuff will bend etc will have to be calculated before it can be shown. That is something the CPU does. It calculates what happens with the damage. It also calculates the grip for the tire model. After that the damage will be shown by the GPU and the tire doesn't flex graphically so that doesn't show.

I think...

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Yeah all of this are heavy CPU dependent things.

Maybe possible in future with better consumer CPUs, or additional specialized PhysX CPUs, but currently the common PCs are too weak for having a racing game that can support super accuracy in numbers and visual Physics for all aspects in nearly realtime. Just imagine a 30+ Grid... no way.

 

wouldnt it be able if there was 2 cpus, one for physics and another one for all the other things? Even if the customer base wouldnt be that huge I guess it would be possible to try it at least and many players that are more serious about sim racing would probably give it a chance.

 

Who knows, wheres a market theres a product. Its just the question about the potential and this is not very attractive regarding invest and back flow I fear, not in the selling price ranges where games are located.

Anyway, technically it would be cool to have such for consumers too and not just for professional Simulator/Car manufacturers.

 

Maybe DX12 is going to help?

 

Thats actually possible. DX12 will help with the cpu usage, right?

 

Possible, but how much the gain will be we will only know when its out and AC hop on the train. Which will happen because of the XBOX Version.

How ever GPU is not that important for physics and I fear the load relief on a CPU by using DX12 is not that great, in the worst case the CPU load raises by using it. But, I dont want to meet trouble halfway!

 

AC doesn't use all of my aging I5 CPU, maybe 50%. Why do we need better or multiple ones?

 

There is some good things when you think about it. I have seen some people that when they compare the game with forza or gran turismo they feel that its a lot more rewarding when playing it. That pCars got this huge even for consoles is probably a win for us all and will have more people getting into it.
The pCars vs AC reminds me about the fanwar between Call of Duty and the Battlefield frenchise. Even if Idont approve with how our british fella acting its not reason to dislike people just because they like pCars.

I also want to say sorry if I have been behaving a bit bad lately in this thread and it wasnt personal meant for anyone.

 

Funny cause they use the same 'superior' finite elements approximation of the tire as PCars, you'd think it would make the tires better

 

Exactly this, the more ppl are going into racing (fresh meat) the more are maybe getting addicted to cars and racing and maybe some of them are lead to AC and will be great sim-racers in the end or even start to have interest in RL racing .
So lets stop this nonsense and be easy with other race games and ppl.

 

Yeah, thats what I mean. If you thinking logical even the ones who "only" play pCars might discover other racing games and not just AC and the more of them who does this the more competition it will be by the studios whos making this game for us so we will all win when we getting better games and features because studios trying to be better than others (which they already do but pressures about it getting higher).

Some simracers show so much love and even pay a huge amount of money for it because its their hobby more than just a game so game studios have everything to do for it to just have them as customers.

 

Finally I can read some sense in this thread

 

Just had a quick read at wmd forum: one member reported a broken T300 that bit the dust after heavy clipping caused by pCars, 2.0.
So please watch out, some members speculate that it's caused by the tyre force slider actually showing only a tenth of the real value. So if you wanna test pCars 2.0 make sure to at least set that slider to something very, very low.

Good luck

 

Indeed. I use 10% ATM.

 

not sure if this was already posted here:
http://projectcarssetups.eu/#/byuser/Jussi
Jussi tries to recreate OEM setups, has anyone tried them? I wanted to test the RUF but gave up alt-tabbing to copy the settings, hopefully this site will push the devs to add a setup system like kunos...

cant see the point playing this game with a wheel on default setups which are super pad oriented

 

Don't get too exited. Jussi has compared RL stock setups to pCars' (and AC's) defaults for a long time. AFAIK they were at least closer to RL before the pad-tailoring was decided upon.

 

I tried the Ruf rgt8 and it's a really good setup. I drive with a pad, though.

 

it seems a bit ridiculous, i had to stretch a bit to post a faster time with the P1 at donington national.