Chris harris on cars - laferrari v porsche 918 v mclaren p1 at portimao.

Seems pretty likely. Don't see how it could be a coincidence.

 

Did Jeremy Clarkson not have it for new show?

 

Obviously aren't lap times that matter that much in these tests, based on few laps, particulary when the results are decided by tenths of seconds.
What matters in these tests is the driveability near the limits of those beasts, and the 918 is clearly the best one, because it permit the pilots to push consistently and with relative fluency. The P1 and LaFerrari need quite more time to be exploited near their limit, as we can see from the countersteering fest they needed.
At lest this is what I perceived.
In any case, IMO they are 3 piece of art, I definitely can't select just one of them, all togheter they are really the holy trinity

 

While I do agree that he missed some important lines when driving the LaFerrari, it is also obvious the car is so much more wild than the P1 or 918.So, my question is, before blaming his driving, did anyone stop to think that he is a much more relevant to a performance driver rather than a pro racing driver.It was quite obvious, the 918 was the cleanest, but these things could be down to the car's traits, or handling, maybe the LaF didn't allow him to place it perfectly on the apex.Just my 2 cents, but the driving characteristics of the P1 and LaF are almost exactly the same in AC as he describes them, I find that the P1 is a much more enjoyable track vehicle, while the LaF is perfect for skidding about and adding some significant noise pollution .

 

Ferrari bandwagon just needs another excuse for LaFerrari being the slowest. Previously it was the tyres. Now it's the driving line (No-one speaking P1's turn 4 exit or Porsche missing the same apex as the Ferrari or P1 using tyres which aren't designed to be used.). Even in AC it's really easy to miss the apex with LaF because the car floats like a jar full of jelly. It seems to be the same irl too..

The reason P1 was the fastest might be the unbelieveable 1.8 lateral G's that it pulled with a street tyres! Track profile propably did favor for Porsche because of the traction benefits. P1 and LaFerrari struggled to get the power down.

 

I did some laps in LaF and then in P1 at Nordschleife BTG last night. Both cars on the correct tyres with default setups and 100% grip (MP).
P1 is so much better to drive for me. It feels like when I point it's nose into the apex it just goes there.

Actually I had to rewind to check if I saw correctly. These are road legal cars, it's crazy.

 

Love the comments above from the armchair critics >NOT! I don't care for a moment that the lap times aren't utterly definitive. Really… Who gives a flying F@%k!?!

Seriously, the video is fantastic and gives people who'll never get to drive these beasts (like almost all of us) an incredible insight into what it's like driving these cars for real. Oh… it's also just plain entertaining.

 

Koenigsegg One:1 does 2G

 

With street boots?

 

Well, as Porsche and Ferrari pointed out, Mclaren gets those lateral acceleration values using street illegal rideheight. But nevertheless Mclaren is also the lightest one of the three, so in the end it's superiority in corners is just obvious.

 

Yep.

 

Portimao is actually called Algarve International also and a conversion was done last year by Tiago Lima, quite nice...

Enjoy: http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/algarve-international-circuit.2874/

cheers !

Edit: oups, Robin_NL already gave the info, sorry I've missed that...

 

With a P1 wearing street boots and track surface at 97% it's fairly easy to go under 1.50. I had some very similar looking burnouts during my laps. Brilliant fun!

 

Where tho ? Easy if it's a peak G on an very banked corner, or at the bottom of Eau Rouge. Doesn't say anything.

Numbers are overrated, what matters is how the car drives (which these cars happen to be pretty good at).

 

Hyper 5 test: the gap between the 3 is 38 hundreths of second, the 918 being the fastest with a margin of 2 hundreths from LaFerrari.
Chris Harris test: the gap between the 3 is 68 hundreths of second, the P1 being the fastest with a margin of 41 hundreths from the 918.

The Hyper 5 test pilot had a driving style more professional and much less erratic than Chris Harris.

 

It was also not the same track, lol.

 

No elevation change whatsoever.

 

Yeah, but the show has so much hashtagswag that it is almost imposible to watch without decreasing your intelect.

 

918 did 1.7G's in that same corner, laf did 1.6....

Luckily this was media event organized by Pirelli and at the same time Top Gear was there taping for the new Amazon show.

So the reason Raffaele De Simone (ferrari test driver) was there because Top Gear invited McLaren/Ferrari/Porsche to bring their own test drivers to set timed laps.

Of course Harris always likes to poke fun at Ferrari saying Simone was there testing two weeks prior.

To me the winner is the Porsche 918.

 

I think the Three Stooges, you know, the ones who drove the damn thing like hooligans are the ones who are right about all of this.

No winners. You'd want all three (I mean the cars...).