Dirt rally

1) Patch with pace notes, audio fix is out. It WORKS!
2) FFB fix following recommendation from RaceDepartment, this is modified Dirt3 file but I had VCorp mode installed with enhanced/fixed ffb. It's bloody awesome now. Try it, just backup the original file. AC does not allow xml attachments so you would need to unzip it and drop to "c:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\DiRT Rally\forcefeedback" or wherever your Dirt Rally installation is.

 

cool they fixed the audio but the ffb settings are ominous. theyre acting oblivious to how bad it is.

 

Yeah thats nuts!

Thats what the rally driver was saying though, if RL cars drove like RBR cars in real life theyd be in trouble. You guys have got me all wrong though...Posting RL clips of RL rally driving isnt evidence to prove otherwise. post a RL clip of a RL car with RBR physics and we'll talk!

Here is his quote anyway... and yes I got mixed up with his quote, he was agreeing with the article....

I just thought it was an interesting opinion from people with RL rally experience and how codies' interpretation might pan out. I dont want anyone to get their knickers in a knot!

 

really weird, for some reason the pacenotes were just disabled completely. dunno what that was, glad theyre working now tho...except im now so much worse, way too much confidence i crashed every 20 seconds & ragequit a minute into the stage think i will try the earlier setting

 

Id just hate to see what could end up being a more realistic interpretation be dismissed because it isnt as hard as RBR and therfore not realistic. It just may not be the case.
Ofcourse being a codies game its hard not to be skeptical!

 

You'll be lucky to have a dry day in Wales, this screams arcade to me

 

ingame settings for the wheel?

 

Basically it comes down to their personal preferences, the subjective character of experiences, and observations of reality. There will always be the arguement to be made that all people will not agree about how does the "real" feel like, not even when they are experiencing things in reality.
Now when you add "pseudorealism" into the equation, it just becomes that much more heated debate.

Sit back, get some popcorn, and let people flap their gums. It is up to you if you want to get pulled into the debate or not, but don't expect it to create any less confusion.
What should matter is what do you find to be most enjoyable first? We are talking about entertainment after all.
If you also want it to respond to real world equalent as closely as possible, determening that has to be left to your own experiences, and your ability to read people if you plan on gathering that information by reading these threads.

Best way to hit the spot is to have the scientific facts that are controlling the product in question. Unfortunately that information is not usually available to us consumers, and even if it was, we prolly wouldn't understand it anyways... so just educate yourself in the matters of physics, how everything involving the particular model is suppose to be, and trust your judgement.

There is reality, that is a fact. Turn it into experiences, it becomes subjective, and facts become grey areas where egos fight.

 

For in game wheel setting s and FFB pretty much everything from here
http://steamcommunity.com/app/310560/discussions/0/613956964580685397/
Except as I am using 900 degrees in Thrustmaster profiler, steering saturation is set to 50%.
Settings in profiler same as for AC, not CM recommended.

 

Just used the "recommended" from the dev setting & although better than what i had it's still far from good .http://steamcommunity.com//app/310560/discussions/0/613956964580685397/

Edit Ninja'd

 

They do seem to be suggesting settings and collecting data.

Remembering the number of times Kunos have tweaked AC's FFB it's probably not an easy fix.

 

Oh man, I'm still on the fence for this, but my hands are itching...

Do you recommend it? FFB and physics might not be perfect sim-like, but it looks fun, decent/good graphics, packed with content and more incoming and seems like Codies are heading on the right direction... but it's still a leap of faith, right?

Also, a proper rally game, not that gymkhana bs and 1min stages of DiRT 3.

 

its a leap of faith, i really dont recommend it. if the devs said "ffb is placeholder" or anything along those lines id say go for it, but its just really bad. maybe its worth the $30 even so to you, some of that just depends on the person.
kunos have tweaked AC's ffb a lot but it never felt anything like this useless mush.

 

I need to say... go for it.

 

for me personally it's miles better then the WRC4 was, that I couldn't play at all, this I can and it feels much more realistic/predictable
and it's not finished so with proper feedback, things might change. Best rally game on the market

the things I would like to see , hopefully coming

more realistic length of stages , 4 stages per rally isn't realstic afaik , should be more like 15 - 20
with this also things like starting early in the mornign, finishing into sunset/night

stages look great but for me they are missing one super realisitc thing - country flags of fans supporting their teams/drivers
not EVERYWHERE and not always, but certain spots are really great for putting few flags in there



career experience
I would love to have my own car (which I can), that I can pick/desing livery for, my name will appear on the windows with my country flag (this is actually quite easy to do !)
as I progress, I might get more sponsor offers, therefore updating my livery as I keep going on, eventually becoming a factory/works driver

cinematics
codemasters were always one of the best ones with putting small in-game cinematics to help you immerse into the game, seeing some small things like the car driving on the ramp when they are being introduced + the champagne celebration if you win, would really help

physics
physics is imo good/solid base. Perhaps more variety in surface needs to be implemented (probably on the planned list already)
it would also be very good - though perhaps hard to do , if the surface conditions would change as in real life
so that drivers driving on the stage first would be in advantage/disadvantage depending on what the conditions are .etc

overall I think it's very good and on right track. I really hope codemasters will continue and make it really awesome

 

This is a niche product, Codies seem to be taking a punt.

I feel buying it sends a message that there is interest in a game/sim with realistic rally content and physics. I'm prepared to support dev's producing niche content that I like, even if it's not perfect, because if no one buys it the genre may disappear.

That's my take on the situation anyway.

 

Speed ~90-120km/h (pootling along)



Speed ~130km/h (hard to tell)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF9fMFEFwLU (onboard)

Speed ~75-95km/h (pootling along)



Speed 80-100km/h (pootling along)



Speed ~140+km/h (that's how they wrap around trees....and still finish)



I could go on, but my point is that they do crash, a lot. Crashing in rally is almost always spectacular because a rally stage is inherently a very bumpy place and it's those bumps that just launch cars into the air in most spectacular ways.

I highly doubt that it's 165km/h here: (110-120km/h maybe)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Xvu4BcgPE

So there, these are RL cars with RBR physics.

 

I really want to buy it but more I read about it just not sure....

Is there a forum like AC where codemaster developers are making posts and taking suggestions?

 

yes there is,
http://forums.codemasters.com/categories/dirt-games-general-discussion

hard to tell how much devs are reading it/respoding

 

If you liked Dirt, and wished it was a bit more Rally, then buy it.

Don't count on any extra content or changes, I see people pinning hopes on the devs pushing it further into the simcore-ffbgasm end of the spectrum.
This is Codemasters, they won't be doing that.