Discuss rFactor2

True, I kind of wonder though if rF2 an PC2 forums have a “Let’s discus AC” thread just like this with people complaining in them

 

Their is one in the RF2 forum, with a similar group as here except over there AC s**cks and RF2 is out of this world. Who could have guessed.
No AC thread on PCars2 forum, but some other sim have their thread.
I don’t discuss AC on the RF2 forum and I keep my post about RF2 to a minimum here.
Bottom line for me is that when I want info on RF2 I go there, same for PCars2.
My favourite, by far, is AC, but it does not mean I don’t occasionally indulge in one of the other.

 

The question is, what do you expect in game specific forums? I chose AC as my sim because i consider it the best package, including the physics. I'm frequenting another "open" forum with sim specific sub forums, and the iR crew always gets butt hurt when you criticize their sim, and just state your opinion about it. I think everyone should be free to state his/her opinion, as long as it is not senseless bashing, or gets insultive. There's not only sunshine, there's also rain. If the people thinking rF 2 is better than AC can't take that, then, i'm sorry, there's something wrong with the recipient, not the sender. TBH, i see a few people here who simply can't take people criticizing "their" sim.

 

So, the news is that we will get reiza content, into rf2 engine.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156658031352743&id=219924822742

I would prefer to have them work on their new title instead (if any)



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That's definitely not good news for Reiza. The best thing about AMS was that they corrected lots of the mistakes made by ISI. Now they want to jump into the already trouble-state platform. Oh why, oh why...

Edit: Misread a bit. It sounds like S397 are desperate to throw some content-fuel into the fire. It seems like they still think lack of content is an important issue. I hope this doesn't change any Reiza-plans..

 

Interesting, I think it might attract some new players to rF2 and may be a good way for Reiza to test out the rF2 waters before jumping all-in (?)

Lately, I've been playing rF2 (in VR) more than other titles but, I do miss playing AMS so I'll be very interested to see how Reiza can apply their attention to detail and refined handling within rF2.

I like the new rF2 Endurance pack a lot and if S397 brings the GT3 pack up to that same level or better, I think it'll be very good overall. If they can add some GT4 content too, things get even more interesting for me.

I'm still hoping for some audio upgrades in rF2 and Reiza have made some nice Audio upgrades to AMS so maybe they can bring some of that to rF2 as well (?)

I too, hope Reiza is still on track for a new title but, if they can combine the best of AMS+rF2, it could be a very good thing in the long run. I agree though, it raises more questions regarding the underlying upgrades made by S397 but, they have worked together in the past with positive results for AMS.

 

Good thing is we might have a hope Reiza can produce a car into rF2 engine that actually can bite you when driven like a retard. Some positive thinking.

 

If Niels could do what isi and now s397 failed to do, I would be really impressed.

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All the hard work at Reiza is done by Renato and his group not Neils.
Neils has the final physics touch which is magic by the way!
So far they are talking about 3 cars and 2 tracks.
Win win for both studios and for us customers who love to race both sims.
If Reiza bois can help in setting properly turbo and gearbox simulation then again its heaven for rfactorians!
Is there anything not to like?
More content by a decent studio can only be good thing.


very curious how glorious f-vee will be!

 

What do you mean exactly?

 

LOL

 

I wonder if Ian Bell will be given the final kick honors to this dead horse.

 

BTW, did anyone try the new "Old Open Wheelers" in rF2 that were released yesterday?

 

Ohh,the experts in physics,mechanics etc already striking,to thoses,start making your own sim,since none of the devs can not do it right.........get a life kids and stop whit the BS......

 

I guess, if you don't know already there's not much point describing. Let's just say drifting racecars, lowest pressures with no downsides and weightless feel over crests. In general S397 tyres are so forgiving you that you need to be a total idi*t and have a reflexes of a snail to spin a car in rF2.

I don't say that can't be realistic but definitely it's not fun to drive and let me wondering why even F1 drivers do spin or crash quite often especially during the practise sessions.

 

Well I can spin the car in RF2 but I am not good driver.
It also largely depends from car to car.
But I also feel sometimes it is too forgiving and allows too much slip or drifting in a racecar as you say.
But then again I am not sure if it is realistic or not cause there are examples of real life F1 drifting. Maybe in a real life people don't to do idiot stuff because it is risky and bad for tires and loosing time even if it doesn't result in spinning.

 

As I said, I don't know if it's realistic or not. I'm just puzzled when I see undoubtly the best drivers of the world frequently spinning and crashing their cars while finding their limits. There's also some examples like Van Gisbergens Bathurst crash where GT3-car just insta-spins into a wall because of a too aggressive driving. Something that never happens with S397 tyres.

We had similar discussion back in the days regarding AC's tyres and good thing is Kunos actually fixed the tyres to be quite a bit more edgy over the limit. S397 tyres makes every sunday driver feel like a driving god. Funny thing is that the rental kart seems to be the most unforgiving and you shouldn't be able spin those cars in real life without way too heavy braking into a corner. But yeah, those aren't S397 tyres and that's why I think we might have a hope Niels can put proper tyres into rF2.

 

I asked you if you could try the Nissan GT1 ISI car. She is unforgiving over the limit.

GT3 cars? Not really



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Did you try the Indycar? I frequently spun in that, when i drove it.

I don't know if there's really a point to that. E.g. most cars in iR are literally undrivable for me, because of the trye model, which totally exaggerates the effect of heated tyres, and the FFB, which gives you no indication at all that the car will be bottoming out. I think both rF 2 and AC do that much, MUCH better. The issues i had with rF 2's tyre model is that it feels a tad synthetic (can't really describe it any better), and that the tyres sometimes didn't slide, but hop over the surface. Which, of course, depending on the tyre, could be correct too. If then, rF 2 seems to be a bit forgiving, when catching slides.

All in all, AC and RBR seem to be the only sims, which really give me the feeling i am rolling with tyres on a street surface. In the case of RBR, it's pretty amazing that they managed such a great car physics and tyre model so early. But then, it was developed with Richard Burns, and the guy knew what he was doing.

 

Has anybody tried new GTE content? Supposedly handling is different than GT3.
Someone somewhere said that S397 GT3 cars have in-built TC of some level regardless of TC driving aid turned off .
New GTEs introduced proper TC levels as setup option and this will also come for GT3s in the future updates iirc.
It would be useful to try GTEs with TC off and compare to GT3s and see if they drift too? Hopefully not.
There is also old ISI GT3 Camaro which spins easily.

Btw as I see it people were complaining before that RF2 is too hard to drive compared to real life and now there are people saying cars are dumbed down and too easy