Fake or Real tracks ??

For the future of track content for AC what would you like to see? I personally cant stand fake tracks like the ones in forza and NFS, i would much prefer all authentic tracks in this racer.

What about you.

 

I prefer real tracks too. But these in LFS were quite good actually. I hope Kunos will lasser scan Adria and Misano so we can start proper Formula Abarth championship.

 

Virtual tracks don't need to be on the forza and NFS style, on rFactor or NKP some of the best tracks are fantasy ones.

With the advantage of no licenses needed.

 

Indeed, real tracks are the best way, but licences can be very expensive. Fake tracks usually don't have that right feeling, but they may be very good. And as mentioned before, the best example of great fake tracks is LFS.

 

Anything goes. Some of my all time favourites are fantasy tracks. Nothing wrong in someone thinking what would be fun to race in, and then creating it!


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I don't understand your problem. Don't like fakes? Don't drive on them. Like fantasy tracks? Drive on them. There is (or will be) a choice.

 

is there a problem?!,, though just asking a question..?!

 

I think he only wanted to know people opinion.

 

I think the base game should be shipped with real tracks only.

After that i don't have a problem with fantasy tracks as addons (either official or mods). There's some exceptionally good ones out there.

 

I voted for fantasy-tracks only, but still want the Nordschleife.

Seriously most circuits are ****ing boring, if you can imagine what people with talent could do with unlimited resources and space.
Most are bigger cart-circuits in a mostly boring environment, where you just get the impression to drive in a circle, even more if they were in the game X from 1999 (expectations are tracks like the Nordschleife and Isle of Man, but those are only used for some single events. Sadly HC-Sim Nerds demand boring tracks you drove 1000 times before, cause they are "realistic", the arcade-crowd gets the most interessting things like pretty fantasytracks with interessting layouts, open world and citys and police that makes your life hard, but the physics are verything but realistic..
I just care about realistic physics, everythings else should be just fun and/or demanding to drive.
Games can give us the opportunity, to do real things we cant do in reality but much much more things, you cant do even your rich.
So rollercoaster like long tracks (for people with no fantasy: think about the nordschleife) in siberia, the canarian isles, citys like Sidney or a jungle, with realistic tracksurfaces and random imperfections (they arent planed on real circuits).
I can buy all the other sims to drive Monza or Laguna Seca for the 546373463453 time.

 

go buy wipeout lol a jungle LMAO!!!

 

What do you want? Should I respond to that? Seriously, I know that the sim-crowd is mostly without much fantasy (see Arma-community) and pendantic at the same time.
Everyone should get what they want, so anyone can get real circuits, I just hope for MORE, even it doesnt exists in the real world, at least trackwise.
This is a race and car simulator not a "real existing track"-simulator and i mentioned I care much about physics, if you arent able to read.
The jungle was just a exaple of an environment, with something different then some grass trees and typical race track-buildings.

 

Real tracks only, of course. Nothing better than racing at Spa after watching a GP. I'm a purist but for me real tracks are the only way.

 

sorry plaid i think your in the wrong game forum ...

Hence why were simmers, i never heard a sim-game reinact fantasy before?!

 

Ok, so you wanted an opinion. And when someone gave you one, you are like "go somewhere else".
Don't like fantasy tracks, don't drive on them. If someone likes them, just let it be.
I would like to get some cars on a beautiful fantasy road like on old NFSes.

 

No, you dont have a clue what I am.
I know what most Sim-Fans expect, so real physics and Pit Stops etc., real cars and real tracks, that fine for them.
I expect real physics, Iam happy about real cars, I like some real tracks, but would be happy about fantasy tracks that are longer and layoutwise superior to existing tracks, that just gets boring.
The definition of a racing sim isnt bound just to existing tracks.
AC got great physics with room for improvement, with great graphics and nice cars. So if there will be interesting tracks like I imagine, which actually are allready made by moders i get the perfect game for me.
I dont get anything but great tracks/environemnts (without imperfections) in arcade-games and Rally-Sims are dead.

And seriously, if you talkin with an adult person this: "go buy wipeout lol a jungle LMAO!!!" just makes you pretty much unintersting for a discussion.

Edit: BTW another example, I love high quality SciFi and interessting characters and storys and I like realistic and hard gameplay, at the market I just get the first with arcade-gameplay (...Deus Ex or whatever) or the second with realistic scenarios that bore me (Arma3).
Still Im not that wrong in Arma if they make a Scifi-mod or play just for the gameplay and enjoy Deus Ex even with arcade-gameplay.

 

Exactly. Real tracks boring? If they're boring you're doing it wrong. You don't hear real-life drivers saying "I've driven this circuit a thousand times, it's boring now". No. Every time they go to Spa or Monaco, they are excited because they are such amazing tracks, each difficult in their own way. Sim-racers like myself have been driving the same circuits for over 15 years, and I still don't get bored with Monza, Spa or Imola, because they are a challenge, and over time knowing the track, you come to enjoy it and it grows on you....and you become faster.

Why would we have fantasy tracks in a sim? Leave that to Forza, Grid, NFS and GT. Please.

Anyway, I doubt offical tracks will ever be fantasy (by that i mean one's made by Kunos). I suspect they will leave the fantasy stuff to the modders once the tools are released. Then you arcade/fantasy lovers can race on your fantasy tracks, while the big boys race the real ones

 

Though I do like anything that changes stuff up, like fantasy tracks. One of the biggest reasons for me to get AC was the scanned tracks. I certainly hope that they do not spend time and resources making fantasy tracks.

That can be for the modders.

 

@TheDyingScotsman

The focus is clearly real sim-tracks. And as most people expect it, Kunos will make these and the customers are happy. So thats fine for me. But there still the modders, a crowd that can be really creative.
Its less that I cant enjoy Monza or Laguna...Ok i absolutly hate Laguna Seca, but I would much more prefer something new and superior to the existing tracks, especially those I know, cause then it would be so much better for me. I have great things in my mind (for my tastes) but Im no Modder, sadly, anyway in reality there is no Mod-crowd with unlimited resources that builds more and more tracks with better and better layouts in interesting places.
People have simply different prioties and things they like.
Like i said elsewhere, I love to have a new circuit or point to point race, where I have to find the best way sponatously and I dont find the appeal too high to drive circles to drive it onces perfect. It feels mostly repititeve and then boring (EDIT: I speak about pure driving, racing against opponents make it much more interesting, but you can have that much better on longer and better fantasy-tracks, too). At least if I played it often in Forza etc..

And with circuits of a lenght of around 5km I always get the feeling of moving in a small circle, its like going on a trip to a big city and just walk along the same street for a whole day, at least if drive them for long, like an hour for example. On long tracks or open worlds you get...a progress. More variation, the repitiveness sinks with longer distances, no matter if graphics or gameplay-wise.
Still i still like Spa and much more the Nordschleife.
BTW: If they dont find a new owner for the Nordschleife, it will maybe not exist anymore in the future and Sim-Racers make only existing tracks, right? So no Nordschleife anymore.

I demand good physics, but wish for many things from other games you always get with arcade-physics. Why isnt it possible to get both? Is there a rule from some higher authority?

Anyway, I dont race in reality and Im not that much interested in motorsports and cars, like many sim-racers. So maybe I shouldnt expect that people understand my praferences.

BTW: Your fantasy seems fairly limited, if you say that fantasy-tracks are necessarly less demending then a real track.

"you arcade/fantasy lovers can race on your fantasy tracks, while the big boys race the real ones"

There are probably LFS and NKar racers which can kick your *** racing-wise, while used to drive on fantasy tracks.

 

I mostly only want real tracks. Because.......
- Real sim tracks are a useful tool to learn the real thing and then you can familiarize yourself with track, if you are lucky enough to drive/ride a track day you can get the most out of it.
- You can have an opinion about which kind of tracks you like and why.
- You can watch motorsports with a more detailed understanding of what you are watching and where you'd like to sit to watch real races.
- As simulation design and computer technology improves it will be difficult to fake reality it terms of bumps and circuit details to make the track as enjoyable to drive.

However some (maybe 10%) track builders (usually professional developers) with oodles of imagination and skill can make a fantasy track that is every bit as exciting and rewarding to drive as a real track. So never say never. But then someone should buy their design and make a real track out of it (if practically feasible). Probably Kunos have one really enjoyable worthwhile fantasy track in them, but leave it for a few years until the favorite real tracks have been completed.