Interesting article with formula renault 2.0 driver severin austerschmidt

Well, this is going into a direction this thread is not meant for.
But no, you're not right. pm if you want to disc. more.

 

No need to, back OT

 

I really really want to read this but the page still doesnt load, it does load a bit but it just stops. I think its something with my browser since this isnt the only page.

@JamesYZN You are the guy behind this, right? Can you copy/paste the text to me in a pm so I can at least read it, I will try every now and then to open your page so you wont lose a visit because of it.

cheers

 

Did you tried different browser?

Man it's not the wheel I'm talking about because I have a friend that has the exact same wheel as you and I shared him A.C., and I must say that even if to me the game felt a little muffed with that wheel it still felt pretty good. And that was his opinion too. He wasn't hooked up that much just because he wanted more polish to the game, but he agreed that the game FFB felt great and responsive. And from what I see direct input is even better with your wheel, I presume because it's less sophisticated, which is not a bad thing. Because for example the G25 has sequential gears but G27 does not even if it's newer. "Genius" Logitech I guess, pshhhhsh.

 

There is something he said about pedals that I have experienced too.

Severin: "I use a G27 wheel and pedals, though I’m considering upgrading to something that’s a bit higher quality, like a T500RS and a used set of Fanatec pedals, because after having used the G27 for a while, it starts to feel like a toy"

I own the same G27 pedals and must say that the feeling of them irritates me more than the G27 wheel when we're talking about the feedback, because there is simply no feedback and nearly no force (weak springs).
The clutch does not feel like a clutch, the brake either. Does someone have the fanatec pedals metioned above?

 

Well both of the above mentioned pedals are much better than the G27, that's true.
Personally I have a problem only with the gas pedal of the G27 pedals cause I have a heavy foot. With the clutch I seek fast response so I'm not too worried that it's like an on and off. Even if IRL I'm using it ALL the time! As for the brakes ... isn't it wise to use them just briefly. As far as I know. I mean - the less you brake - the faster you move.

 

Yeah same here. The G27 is not bad for doing some racing, but when you do racesim more an more regulary (which I do since AC came out) it's worth thinking about to invest some bucks for better pedals.
The Wheel is still ok.

 

G27 feels completely fine. On contrary I've heard that belt driven wheels loose give less feel then G27 in AC due to physics frequency.
g27 working on 300Hz, AC physics working on 300Hz. Belt driven wheels working on 500Hz.

 

I believe it's called throttle blipping and a lot of race-cars have automatic devices that simulate this driver skill. What I've found is that on a lot of formulee car it isn't doing you much good to blip the throttle.

The formulee car is just too light to push past the threshold braking, but a lot of roof top cars aren't that light and they've even got the abs for most part. I would believe so that in real life since he was driving the formula renault 2.0 his blipping must have been minimal, but if he had driven a porsche cup car, then they would have probably asked him to start blipping even if he didn't know how, just for safety.

 

No, no, no... Not talking about heel and toe/revmatching.

Talking about throttle-braking. Applying throttle during braking to stabilise the car, which allows crazy amounts of rear brakes and "better" threshold braking.

 

More like it. This. Yes.
I didn't see F1 cars, for example, being driven with both brake and throttle while braking.

 

Damn, thats a fast reply. It's not as easy to make clean blips when ur left foot braking as in heel and toe'ing. Maybe sometimes you slip into "throttle-braking".. would rather just call it engine braking for what it is.
Still, speaking for myself I'm always running near 70% brake balance, couple of % up or down, dependant on the track.

Also, the more track grip, the more engine braking you can use.
I've driven races on 96% track grip and the lack of longitudinal grip is rather obvious as compared to 100% (speaking for ac obviously). What this means is that I was forced to make the blips a lot cleaner or the car was going straight on as the front tires would refuse to bite into the tarmac as well as with the optimal grip. Baring in mind that laptimes are rarely matched in real life and it seems that grip stays for most part on let's say 98% on real track, it leads us to conclusion that for more effective engine braking we need more track grip in real life. Yet, again with the right circumstances this skill could and should be applied in real life too.

Then again, if you can see that keeping revs too high up is furthering your brake distances or reducing your corner entry speed, you size using it, both in sim-track as well as on real race track, as shown with previous example of the races on lower track grip in AC. My point is, this is not something automatic that can't be played around with. I'm almost always executing this by hearing the cars revs and feeling the trajectory, not automatically holding throttle in static position. Blipping the throttle (engine braking-heel-toeing) is a skill and a very good skill to have, no matter what your instructor tells you.

 

Actually I think it is more connected to regaining grip in the tires. Something like ABS. Cause we usually play without ABS and it might be helpful but, as I said, I didn't see many racing drivers when driving and looking at their telemetry, apply both gas and brake when braking. At least not often.

 

Yea, because the instructor tells you not to do it. Then you get into gt3 car and it does it automatically for you. As a humen you can always control it better then, pre-programed device.

Just watch that for example, or any of Schumi's old videos. The engine braking is rather obvious and he dominated back in the days convincingly.

 

On that video there is not even a brake tab, or I'm blind.
Anyway - pumping the gas is not applying the brake with the gas.
Please give me a video with a gt3 car then.

 

Can't figure what the advantage of this is, beyond being able to adjust the 'balance' front-rear using the throttle... if you had the right balance set up already then it'll brake in the same distance, but use more gas & heat the rear brakes way more. And pretty much any modern series I can think of has in-cockpit brake bias tweaking.

 

Mate I can't be bothered to further try to explain this. I'm near second faster then anyone else per lap and for most part 2-3sec. If your understanding of car dynamics isn't good enough I don't have hours here to tutor you. Cheers.

 

Mate, you are probably 10 seconds faster a lap, on a 90 seconds lap, then me and you still can talk crap. You know, courtesy.
And your youtube page is broken. Fix it.

 

I *highly* recommend the GTEYE brake spring upgrade for the G27. You can then take the stock brake spring and throw it in the clutch pedal, and then use the stock clutch spring for the throttle. It's cheap and very easy to do. Goes a long way to making the pedals feel more robust and less toy-like, although it doesn't transform them into top flight pedals or anything.

 

Very good, cheap solution, nicely explained.