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Minorating filter in server browser

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by ears1991, Oct 26, 2015.

  1. ears1991

    ears1991 Alien

    searching for "mr" yields too many irrelevant results, would be nice if we could filter to just show MR servers

    maybe a little premature but its popularity is increasing and increasing
     
    ears1991, Oct 26, 2015
    #1
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  2. Guido Trampe

    Guido Trampe Simracer

    try [MR] perhaps that cleans up the list?
     
    Guido Trampe, Oct 26, 2015
    #2
  3. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    Yes, this would be pretty good.

    Not only filtering servers that have minorating, but also it would be good to select each grade that a server may allow individually.
    Even better would be to show the drivers own grade somewhere and advise him to pick a server that suits that grade (e.g. preselect AB in case you're AB or ABCN if you're N).

    While minorating isn't officially supported (and doesn't have to be), it would be cool to introduce at least support at this level, which would mainly be a UI thing.
    After all, even the Kunos servers have minorating installed. ;)
     
    Berniyh, Jul 19, 2016
    #3
  4. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    I tried to experiment with a custom online browser, but actually it wouldn't help. As soon as you additionally need MR information, Kunos would need to add MR as dependency. In my example the online browser wouldn't even ask the Kunos Lobby for servers, but the MR backend. Any problem while I'm out of the house (maybe a weekend on the ring) would remove your capability to drive online races in AC - maybe a bad example but for sure nothing Kunos could take responsibility for.

    The failsafe things I can think of take lots of effort (like a second <server_ip>:port/INFO call that is allowed to fail, but can be spoofed) share the same: Suddenly the lights could go out, and people would complain around the internetz - hurting AC and Kunos way more than any mod integration could do good.

    Don't get me wrong, I'd love the upgrade and there is also a huge leverage in the mod's effectivity - but reality says no. We need to stick with 3rd party helpers. The 1.7 patch might have a little surprise here btw.

    But there is something we all could do: Let's try to have a consistent naming convention. I mean have a look at the MR servers: http://www.minorating.com/Stats
    So many without even a hint of MR, and the grades are written in so many different ways you can't really filter for them. I'd say let's stick to the official servers like: Kunos #002 [MR ABCN] by RackService.org
    Not MR-ABC, not MR [ABC], not MR [ALL] or whatever.

    I'm even thinking of a simple but rude change that a server is rejected if it's name doesn't correctly express the blocking restriction. If there is a meaningful convention, Kunos might even consider a special - name based - filter, who knows?
     
    Minolin, Jul 19, 2016
    #4
  5. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    Well yeah, showing the rate was maybe going a bit too far. For the rest, you wouldn't need minorating.

    server-side it would only be a tag in that the admin can select grades he wants to allow. These don't have to be synchronized to minorating, just like it's the case with the current method (the server name), but with better filtering.

    This could of course lead to the situation where a server would indicate to run minorating, e.g. at grade ABC, while it doesn't or possibly allows different grades as well.
    It's not really different from the current situation, so it would still be an improvement.
     
    Berniyh, Jul 19, 2016
    #5

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