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Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge #128 – “The forgotten supercar.”

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by Totall Wrytoff, May 12, 2019.

  1. Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap Challenge #128 – “The forgotten supercar” and the Third Round of “Il Campione d'Italia” mini-series.

    The Challenge:
    Car: Ferrari GTO
    Track: Autodromo del Mugello
    Like the 330P4 two weeks ago, I can’t believe we have never used this car in WHC and I’m delighted to be able to propose this juicy combi.
    The Ferrari 288 GTO is gorgeous. For me, the shape of the 308/328 is iconic, the classic by Pininfarina and it epitomises Ferrari. The GTO takes that lovely shape, pumps it with muscle, adds two turbos to the V8 and a racing transmission. At its launch in 1984 it was the fastest road car ever made. It is almost too much to contemplate.
    Since the early 1980s, Ferrari has produced five distinct supercars. The 288 GTO was the first and the original Ferrari "supercar," designed and built to stand above the regular product line-up. But it has been described as “the forgotten supercar” because of its rarity. With only 272 produced the 288 GTO is the rarest of Ferrari’s super cars. In comparison, there were 1,300 F40s, 400 F50s, approximately 500 Enzos and there are around 600 LaFerraris. In January this year a 1985 Ferrari 288 GTO sold for $3,360,000 at an RM/ Sotheby’s auction in Arizona. So, not too much of a stretch if you’ve splashed out on a Fanatec wheel…

    The Ferrari 288 Gran Turismo Omologata was produced between 1984 and 1987 as a race car for the Group B Circuit racing series. The series never happened so all of the 272 cars built stayed as road cars and all came in red, except one, which was black. Oddly, in the game, you have a choice of red or yellow, but not black. The 288 GTO was fitted out for GT road use with leather-trimmed seats, air con and electric windows available as optional extras. The car was very popular with Ferrari customers, which was why they produced and sold 72 cars more than the required homologation amount.
    Reset your wheel angle to “truck position” for authenticity! Intercoolers dominate the view of the engine, with the turbos tucked under the rear anti-roll bar. Lovely.
    The 288 GTO weighs 1,159 kg and is powered by a 2.8litre, DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder V8, with IHI twin-turbochargers, Behr air-to-air intercoolers and Weber-Marelli fuel injection. This delivers 395-400bhp at a noisy 7,000rpm and a chunky 366lb/ft (496Nm) of torque, but not until 3,800 rpm. You’ll notice that!

    Unlike the 308, the GTO’s V8 was mounted longitudinally, using the 308's rear trunk space to make room for the twin turbochargers and intercoolers. The racing transmission was mounted to the rear of the longitudinal engine, you can see it hanging out over the rear axle.
    L'autodromo del Mugello in Tuscany.
    One of the most heavenly places on earth.
    Road racing started here on public streets in the 1920s, the circuit we have was built in 1973. Having done an F1 test at the track, Mark Webber said that "10 dry laps around Mugello is the same as doing 1000 laps around the Abu Dhabi track in terms of satisfaction."
    The Mugello Circuit really shows off how well the 288 GTO drives. Down into and up through Arrabbiata is scintillating. Providing you are on boost, the engine feels muscular and you can use the throttle to help steer the car, its great balance and poise made me feel like a much better driver than I am. Don’t drop off boost though!
    A big drawback about this week’s combi is that we can’t actually drive our Ferrari into the local town of Scarperia for some Coccoli con prosciutto e Stracchino (google it, but not if you are dieting) and a bottle or three of Brunello di Montalcino as the sun sets over the Tuscan Hills.

    The other slight drawback is that, on console versions at least, there is a bug in the transmission set-up. If you select the second set of gears (the shorter ratios) the display will revert to showing the first set, but don’t worry, if you save the set-up, the ratios you choose are present as you drive off, even if the display says otherwise. You will need to re-set them though, every time you leave the pits.

    There is a choice of tyres - Street 90s, for those that like things authentic, Street and Semislicks. I suggest the latter is what most of us will be using for our best time. In testing the Street 90s felt the most satisfying but seemed to make the car roll more in the corners and they were over three secs slower that the surprisingly good, confidence inspiring, Street tyres. The Semislicks transform braking and turn in and were again about three secs a lap faster than the Street tyres. Here are the recommended pressures:
    Street 90s: Front 44psi / Rear 45psi
    Streets: Front 37psi / Rear 40psi
    Semislicks: Front 31psi / Rear 32psi

    How to take part - Hot lap:
    To enter, select Hotlap, choose the Ferrari GTO and the Mugello Circuit. Please setup the session as shown below:
    Mode: Hotlap
    Time of day: Free
    Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
    Setup: Free
    Controller: Free
    Assists: Free
    Stability: Free

    To qualify for WHC you must have the ambient temp set to 26 DegC.

    Deadline: Sunday 19th May 2019 - 21:00 GMT.

    You can run as many laps as you like and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, testing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome.
    To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading and of course the car being used!
    Please post video clips and share information in here as well, but without the session screen your time will not be included (placing the session screen in a video clip is acceptable).

    Please use the following format to post your times:
    Your time, to be shown as x.xx.xxx.
    Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
    The image or screen shot showing your time.
    Your thoughts and comment

    Please mark updated times with Improvement.

    A leader board is collated regularly. Unfortunately editing of posts gets locked on this forum so this post cannot be updated.

    Weekly Hotlap Challenge Championship League
    How it works:
    1. Enter the Weekly Hotlap Challenge as posted every Sunday evening and you will be automatically entered into the league table.
    2. Your ranking in the final standings, posted on Sunday evening, will earn you points, as follows:
    Place Points: 1st 15 2nd 14 3rd 13 4th 12 5th 11 6th 10 7th 9 8th 8 9th 7 10th 66
    3. Every player taking part in a WHC, but finishing outside the top 10 will get 4 points.
    4. Every player who is in the table, (ie has entered a previous WHC) but does not play that week will get three points each week.
    5. Players that join WHC after WHC#114 will be awarded 3 points retrospectively for every WHC missed. For example, if you enter WHC for the first time at WHC#124, your name will be added to the table, with 27 points, plus whatever you score in WHC#124.
    6. Specialist Challenges will also feature throughout the season. These will be as monthly mini-series, for example Formula 1 February or Muscle Car Month, or nominated car types, for example the best driver in road cars. These events will be announced in the WHC Thread.
    The updated Championship league table will be displayed in a new post in the Console Lounge.

    At the end of the year, the WHC before Xmas week, the winners will be declared -
    * Championship podium
    * Specialist Challenge Winners
    * 1st place Contributor (the most Bonus points)
    * 1st place Loyal Lapper (who has entered most regularly, most often, if there is a draw, Bonus points count, then Champ points)

    Weekly Hotlap Challenge History

    1. Mugello - Praga R1 Posted by John Gordon 3rd Oct, 2016 (Console Lounge P55)
    2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
    3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12 Posted by GravelTrap 19th Oct 2016 (Console Lounge P54)
    4. Magione - Lotus 2 Eleven
    5. Silverstone International - Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    6. Zandvoort - Pagani Huayra
    7. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
    8. Spa - BMW M3 GT2
    9. Vallelunga Club - KTM X-Bow R
    10. Barcelona - Moto - Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    11. Silverstone 1967 - Lotus 72D
    12. Nordschleife - Porsche 911 Carrera S
    13. Black Cat County - Ferrari LaFerrari
    14. Monza Junior 1966 - Alfa Romeo GTA
    15. Redbull Ring GP - Lamborghini Gallardo Sl
    16. Zandvoort - Ford Escort RS1600
    17. Imola - Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
    18. Brands Hatch GP - Lotus Exige V6 Cup
    19. Monza - Ferrari FXX K
    20. Barcelona - Moto - Ferrari 488 GT3
    21. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV
    22. Silverstone GP - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
    23. Nurburgring Sprint GT - Toyota AE86 Tuned
    24. Magione - Maserati Levante S
    25. Spa - Lotus 98T
    26. Vallelunga - Classic - Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick"
    27. Nordschleife Endurance Cup - M235i Racing
    28. Silverstone 1967 - Maserati 250F T2 12C
    29. Red Bull Ring National - BMW 1M Posted by HavanaB0B, 1st May 2017 (Console Lounge p28)
    30. Zandvoort - Lotus Evora GX
    31. Barcelona GP - Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1
    32. Brands Hatch Indy - Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack Posted by by Graveltrap 21st May 2017 (Console Lounge p25)
    33. Black Cat County Long - Lamborghini Countach
    34. Imola - Mercedes Benz 190E Evo II
    35. Monza - Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    36. Nurburgring Sprint GT - BMW M3 E30
    37. Magione - Mercedes SLS AMG
    38. Spa - Porsche 917/30 Spyder
    39. Silverstone GP - Nissan GT-R Nismo Posted by Hugo Catarino,9th July 2017 (Console Lounge p21)
    40. RedBull Ring GP - Alfa Romeo 4c
    41. Brands Hatch GP - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
    42. Highlands Long - Ford GT40
    43. Vallelunga - Lotus GTE Carbon
    44. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 Turbo S Posted by Graveltrap 13th Aug 2017 (Console Lounge p19)
    45. Nordschleife - Ferrari 312T
    46. Mugello - BMW M3 E92
    47. Black Cat County - Short - Ford Mustang 2015
    48. Imola - Maserati MC12 GT1
    49. Silverstone 1967 - Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    50. Barcelona Moto - McLaren 570S
    51. Magione - Mazda Miata NA
    52. Spa - Ferrari F40
    53. Vallelunga - Corvette C7 Stingray Posted by Moodyryder 23rd Oct 2017 (Console Lounge p14)
    54. Brands Hatch GP - Tatuus FA01
    55. Highlands - Lotus 3 eleven
    56. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo
    57. Monza 1966 Full Course - Ferrari 312/67
    58. Nordschleife - Porsche 962 C Short Tail
    59. Zandvoort- Nissan 370Z Nismo
    60. Silverstone GP - McLaren F1
    61. Vallelunga Classic - Ferrari 250GTO
    62. Imola - Lotus 98T
    63. Highlands Drift - P4/5 Competizione
    64. Mugello - Lamborghini Aventador SV
    65. Spa - Porsche 911R
    66. Black Cat County - Lotus 2-Eleven GT4
    67. Barcelona GP - Ferrari SF70H
    68. Nordschleife Endurance & Highlands - Porsche 917k
    69. Zandvoort - Lotus Exige Scura Posted by Hugo Catarino 25th Feb 2o18 (Console Lounge p7)
    70. RedBull Ring National - Maserati Alfieri
    71. Laguna Seca - Audi Sport quattro S1 E2
    72. Brands Hatch - Mclaren P1
    73. Imola - Porsche 911 RSR
    74. Nurburgring GP - Ferrari F2004
    75. Barcelona Moto - Lamborghini Huracan Performante
    76. Silverstone 1967 - Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
    77. Magione - BMW 1M Stage 3
    78. Highlands Long - Mazda 787b
    79. Black Cat County - Toyota GT86
    80. Spa - Toyota TS040 Hybrid
    81. Vallelunga Classic - Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec
    82. Mugello - Ferrari 458 GT2
    83. Silverstone International - RUF R12 R AWD
    84. Highlands Long - Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014
    85. Monza - Pagani Zonda R
    86. Nordschleife - Lotus 3-eleven
    87. Zandvoort - Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4
    88. Redbull Ring GP - Mercedes Sauber C9
    89. Brands Hatch - Lotus 25
    90. Highlands Short - Abarth 595 SS
    91. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Audi TT Cup
    92. Monza 1966 - Road Course - Porsche 908 LH
    93. Vallelunga - BMW M3 E30 Gr.A 92
    94. Laguna Seca - Alfa Romeo Mito QV
    95. Nordschleife - RUF Yellowbird & Ferrari F40
    96. Barcelona GP - BMW Z4 GT3
    97. Highlands Drift - Ferrari 458 Italia
    98. Spa - Lotus Type 49
    99. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 GT1-98
    100. Silverstone - Nissan GT-R GT3; Brands Hatch - Lotus Exige V6; Vallelunga - free car
    101. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
    102. Silverstone National - Mazda MX5 Cup or Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    103. Highlands Short – Ford Escort RS1600 Posted by Totall Wrytoff 11th Nov 2018 (Console Lounge p2)
    104. Black Cat Short – Porsche 917/30
    105. Monza 66 Junior Course – Ferrari F40 S3
    106. Magione – Toyota Supra MkIV
    107. Brands Hatch Indy 5 lap - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    107. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    108. Nordschleife - Abarth 595SS
    108 Laguna Seca 5 lap - McLaren F1 GTR
    109. Brands Hatch - Ferrari FXX K
    110. Highlands – Lamborghini Muira P400 SV
    111. Imola - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG 003C
    112. Vallelunga Club – Lotus Exos T125
    113. Highlands Drift - Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport
    114. Barcelona Moto - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder
    115. Silverstone GP – Ferrari F138
    116. Laguna Seca – Lotus 72D
    117. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari SF15-T
    118. Spa Francochamps – Maserati Quattroporte GTS
    119. Zandvoort – Toyota AE86
    120. Silverstone National – BMW M3 E92 Step 1
    121. Silverstone 1967 – Ford GT40
    122. Nurburgring GP - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2016
    123. Highlands Drift Circuit – Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder
    124. Nordshleife Endurance – Porsche 962C Long Tail
    125. Red Bull Ring National - Audi R8 V10 Plus
    126. Imola – Ferrari 330 P4
    127. Monza 1966 Road Course - Pagani Huayra BC
    128. Mugello – Ferrari GTO

  2. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer

    One of my favourite car ever. I drew it many time as a kid. My favourite was the 250 GTO though. First time for Mugello and can't wait for it. Thanks
  3. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer

    Absolutely lovely to drive. I am really surprised. Love the stock settings
  4. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    Great combo this one. Another car I’d never think of trying but it feels so good to drive.
    Good choice again Totall
  5. So... what sort of lap times are we all doing????:)
    From testing, I think the winning time will be around 2:02/ 2:03, about a couple of secs off my testing time;):D
    I'll get some lap time this afternoon and break the ice for everyone!
  6. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    2:02!!!! OMG!! im way off

    2:08’s hence why I haven’t posted a time yet.
    Need to relearn this track ASAP
    Last time I drove mugello was week #82 which is probably why I’m so slow.
  7. Hey Lewis, I was teasing!!:D But I like that you thought I wasn't!:):cool:
    2:08s is a solid start, but it's a long track and you know what some of the Aliens can do, hence my prediction.

    I'm going to have to stop what I'm doing (sunbathing) and go and do a few laps....
  8. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer

    You're right Totall. I was a bit ashame to post this knowing it's far from being competitive.

    2.13.876 Xbox

    Just spinned around to learn the track. I guess I can improve that..
    I also believe the aliens will be at 2.08 or even lower. We are proud of them

    Attached Files:

  9. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    As soon as I read your post about the 2:02 and you only being a couple of seconds behind in testing
    I immediately give up and went out to sit in the sun.
    I honestly thought you were serious
  10. Sorry Lewis! That was my "wry" sense of humour! :D
    Get back into the seat and post a low 2.08!:p

    Edit - I'm still chuckling at this!
    Last edited: May 13, 2019
  11. 2.09.040
    Shakedown, then a fiddle (pressures, camber and toe) which has, of course, made things less good. So, now a bit more dialled in, I'm going to revert to stock settings to check.
    I'm using the middle transmission ratios with Set 2 and the semi slicks, one psi under the recommended.
  12. Never feel ashamed!:eek: Never! Not on the WHC forum at least.:)
    We all know what you can do, you are new to the circuit and you've only done a few laps!
    And even if you don't improve, we can all have our bad weeks. Just ask Sebastian Vettel.

    Its a very tough circuit, there is a knack to several corners. Apart from the rubbish brakes, the car is forgiving but in return needs quite a bit of coaxing to keep it on line.
    I reckon you'll be comfortably under 2.10 by the end of the week, but I do think the Aliens will be sub 2.05. The RSR lap record is 2.07.440, that usually gets beaten by around 2 secs.
    I'm sure someone excellent will post a vid to show us how it should be done!
  13. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    2.07.956 - X1X


    I’m really enjoying this combo but I’m so crap at mugello
    It seems Most turns require setting the car up for the following turn which I’m just not doing right.
  14. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer

    That's very nice. I really appreciate your post.
    For Vettel, between Ferrari and my football team it's quiet depressing at the moment. Lucky I have AC to forget..
    Cracking time by the way. Well done
  15. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    Improvement ish

    2.07.861 - X1X

  16. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer

  17. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer

    I think you got him mad with that 2.02.
    It's only Monday. I bet he's gonna do it..
  18. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    I was close to putting my wheel on eBay haha

    But I believed it because of how fast he was last week.
    I very much doubt a 2.02 is possible from me, in fact I’m certain of it. My goal is a low 2.07
  19. At Mugello, turns 3 and 4, 4 and 5, 6 and 7, 10 and 11 and sort of 13, are all sequence corners and require a similar approach.
    Having watched earlier WHC vids, I noticed the Aliens always used a very tight line into the first turn, holding onto the kerb, allowing later braking (or more room.) This then opens out the following corner, making the line shallower and gives a faster, easier exit.
    That's the theory anyway. I've drawn a picture in powerpoint, although I struggled to get the lines right, as you can see!:)
    PS - This is also a clear demonstration.... there is no need to be ashamed of anything on the WHC forum!:D:D:D
    Last edited: May 13, 2019
  20. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien


    2.07.376 - X1X


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