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Look what the cat hacked in - s02e06

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Nahkamarakatti, Sep 19, 2015.

  1. mms

    mms Alien

    Even if it's about a feature on the wish-list, I have no problems with people expressing their opinion about it, but arguing that it shouldn't be done just because they don't like it, especially when it's an optional one that does not prevent them to enjoy the features they already have and like, I just don't get it... It's just selfish and not fair to the rest of the people that like that feature.

    How would you feel if the 90% of the AC players that don't like / use MP convinced Kunos to drop the MP, just because they don't like it?
     
  2. Hans Meier

    Hans Meier Racer


    Spa RSR WR's the Ruf is 0.6 seconds Faster. So im defnetly wrong with the "taking appart" but it seem to depend on the Track....
     
  3. SuperBobKing

    SuperBobKing Racer

    Am I missing a filter option or something?
    These are the spa times:
    F40 - 2:35:323
    RUF - 2:37:071

    And I double checked to make sure I didn't accidentally click the stage 3. You also have to consider the driver and small sample size, not just the car and track.
     
  4. Hans Meier

    Hans Meier Racer

    Dont know what we do diffrent...

    http://www.radiators-champ.com/RSRL...controller_type=all&community=all&friends=all

    http://www.radiators-champ.com/RSRL...controller_type=all&community=all&friends=all
     
  5. SuperBobKing

    SuperBobKing Racer

    Those links are only considering an outdated version of AC. To view all of the times just click rank, instead of mousing over it an clicking rankHistory in the drop down. It isn't clear that clicking on the red buttons takes you to a different page, it could use a design change.
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2015
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  6. Stereo

    Stereo Alien

    Hmm, my childhood car posters were an F40 and a Pontiac Firebird. Kunos, you know what to do ....
     
  7. bigbawmcgraw

    bigbawmcgraw Alien

    You're right regarding the forced mirror option. We forced it on in the Spa server, arguably the one server that needs it most and I got a wave of complaints and took it off.

    But the option to stop people from joining during race wasn't implemented well at all. It should allow you to join the server but not join the race. Or at least tell you how many laps are remaining in the lobby before clicking for 20 minutes waiting for a race.

    So yes, sometimes the community gets it wrong but sometimes Kunos don't understand what the community is asking for, or they can't do it and give us what they think is the next best thing.

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  8. Maybe they are trying the feature to force sth by the server and didn't come up with anything else usefull than virtual mirror, but yeah, that's a bs feature

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  9. Quffy

    Quffy Alien

    I noticed that having Virtual Mirror in Online races improves my racing vs opponent cars. Much more than a track map does, I turned that off, except in practice and qualify. But for race just virtual mirror. The red arrows are also helpful. So both of them can tell me that an opponent is on my side, and I need to keep my line without cutting him off. I occasionally also use the look left/right/back buttons.
    But all this to say, without realizing, virtual mirror forced on improves your race Online. However this doesn't prevent Monza T1 wreck fest, because the problem is deeper than that. And is about people wanting to all be 1cm from the car in front, without realizing that you need to give space and brake earlier, so you give space to those ahead to drive the chicane successfully. But all the time people bumping each other, and they don't consider the car damage will influence the car speed and handling.
     
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  10. esox71

    esox71 Alien

    True and it's probably they nuggets that want VM off.
    You kinda need it for close racing...I know I know..." I race all the time close and don't use it"
    Single screen it's best to use it for your fellow racers safety, triples not so much.
     
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  11. Quffy

    Quffy Alien

    Yep I assume triple screens (or a very wide resolution) usually have clear visibility to the car's side and internal mirrors and VM is not a necessity. While single screen users with between 40 and 60 fov, only the virtual mirror can be visible because the rest is obstructed since the monitor/resolution is not wide enough.
     
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  12. Guidofoc

    Guidofoc Alien

    I think a better way should be "default on" and not "forced on".
    @Quffy I also use Helicorsa radar app and it helps a lot in those close calls like Monza T1.
     
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  13. I use it, but as said, forcing it on won't guarantee you better racing

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  14. esox71

    esox71 Alien

    Yeah, my helicorsa is right under my VM:)
     
  15. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    In my opinion it's exactly as selfish as promoting a feature.

    Upper management with corresponding rhetorical education, or just enough internet experience? I'd guess the latter, based on the missing adjustment to your discussion partner ;) No offense, though.
    You compare future features in discussions with a core component that is in the product for a long time. But honestly, if the community really could convince Kunos to drop the MP, I think they had really good arguments so I would probably convinced as well.

    This.
    When Kunosh is convinced that a feature will improve AC big times, it's incredibly well done. 100% understood, totally thought through.
    When Kunosh just reacts to the crowd so they stop shouting "XY needs to be improved", it isn't done with the same dedication and passion. It's done so a new XY feature is there, just as they asked.

    So: At least as long things aren't decided (by Kunosh), I will see it as a valid contribution to disagree from time to time. And btw often I don't really disagree, but think it's worth to note a disadvantage as well.
     
  16. esox71

    esox71 Alien

    Who is Kunosh? It's Kunos, you just pronounce it "Kunosh":p
     
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  17. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Yeah, but not that many people know.
    Doing it wrong will draw attention to this detail ;)
     
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  18. /aɪ / /əˈɡriː/

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  19. elyess

    elyess Racer

    Wait if kunos drop multiplayer can we get refund?
     
  20. mms

    mms Alien

    In my opinion it's not the same thing to promote a feature that is planned anyways, and arguing against one.
    I'd guess either... I'm sorry if you took this personally, it was not targeting you at all, I appreciate what you're doing for the community, and don't consider you a selfish person.

    And you got me wrong, I probably didn't expressed myself correctly, I was actually referring to the good old early access times when MP was not considered a core feature (by Kunos at least), and it was not confirmed whether it would actually make into the official version.

    BTW, I'm a software developer like yourself and most Kunos guys, I really don't know where you came up with that upper management thing...
     
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